Calling all IJN Takao-class (高雄型) fans

[iansenior]

Hi
Hope you do not mind but I have a general question. Could anybody tell me which type of aircraft the IJN chokai carried in 1938.

Ian

[Dan K]

Judging from what I see in the photos of her in Chinese waters in the late 1930s, I'd say Kawanishi E7K1/E7K2 Alfs and Daves (designation escapes me). Probably two of the earlier E7K1s and one Dave

[Atma]

Judging from what I see in the photos of her in Chinese waters in the late 1930s, I'd say Kawanishi E7K1/E7K2 Alfs and Daves (designation escapes me). Probably two of the earlier E7K1s and one Dave

Nakajima E8N Dave.

[Atma]

Dan on your IJN Maya build, dont forget that IJN Maya had enlarged hoods for her number 2# an 4#(later 3# ) turrets:



First is from December 1943 and the last two from May 1944.

Edit:Every surving Imperial Japanese Heavy cruiser had this modification sometime in late 1943/early 1944, even the IJN Aoba, expect IJN Mogami and IJN Tone class.

[Dan K]

Thx, Atma. I did attempt it, though it is arguable as to whether or not they are large enough. I cut off the Aoshima molded hoods and replaced them with hoods from the PitRoad set, which are clearly larger then the Aoshima versions when placed side to side. I appreciate your bringing it to my atttention in the first place.

[Atma]

Well, if you got any of the IJN Myoko class by Fujimi, cause Fujimi provides with extra hoods for the enlarged version. So if you have the kits look at the boxes for spares !

[Atma]

Thx, Atma. I did attempt it, though it is arguable as to whether or not they are large enough.

By the way, they look fine to me, size wise

[iansenior]

Hi
Thanks to Dan k and atma for the names of the aircraft listed

Judging from what I see in the photos of her in Chinese waters in the late 1930s, I'd say Kawanishi E7K1/E7K2 Alfs and Daves (designation escapes me). Probably two of the earlier E7K1s and one Dave

Judging from what I see in the photos of her in Chinese waters in the late 1930s, I'd say Kawanishi E7K1/E7K2 Alfs and Daves (designation escapes me). Probably two of the earlier E7K1s and one Dave

Nakajima E8N Dave.

All I have to do now is find them in 1:72 scale

Ian

[Atma]

The re-release of IJN Takao and IJN Chokai by Aoshima in 1/350 with re-tooled parts is out:
IJN Takao:http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10160971
IJN Chokai:http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10160974
Enjoy !

[Atma]

Bad news for Dan(?), Fujimi will release a new tooled IJN Maya(1944) in this summer in 1/700.

[redoctober27]

Atma, will Fujimi's new tooled IJN Maya(1944) be waterlined by chance?

[Atma]

Waterline yes. It maybe got full hull release in the future too.

[Dan K]

Bad news for Dan(?), Fujimi will release a new tooled IJN Maya(1944) in this summer in 1/700.

Well, of course. The truism about a new mold coming out as one finishes the old one always holds true. I'll be happy with mine. Degaussing cable - will it or won't it? I bet Fujimi plays it safe and puts one on.

I've yet to determine whether the bulge issue with my Fujimi Takao is an aberration of my particular kit, or a mold problem. WOnder how Maya's will turn out, unless they reuse the Takao hull.

[redoctober27]

Im surprised that there not coming out with an IJN Atago instead of the IJN Maya, with the model molds being nearly similar. You would think that it would be easier and a cheaper way for a quick turn over for profits.

[Atma]

There is going to be a completely new hull for the IJN Maya. And even if IJN Atago was selected only a post 1943 version was available if you have to use the IJN Takao hull(sealed portholes).
And at the end of the day, you can make an IJN Atago from Fujimi's 1/700 IJN Takao model.
Just the 25mm single AA needs to have slightly different locations.

[Dan K]

There is going to be a completely new hull for the IJN Maya

Well, that is most interesting news. Can you tell us what will be different, or why the new hull?

[Atma]

Well, that is most interesting news. Can you tell us what will be different, or why the new hull?

Thats what the e-mail from Fujimi said, I was given no further information sadly.

[Vladi]

A questions slightly off the new Fujimi�s Maya topic (though I am interested, too - and would be even more in a 1942 Chokai )...

What color the canvas blast bags and splinter covers on Takaos (and wartime IJN ships generally) should be? These are usually being depicted as white (or dirty white) for natural canvas but according to Steve Backer in Shipcraft 5: Japanese Heavy Cruisers / Myoko and Takao classes the canvas was left natural colour before the war but then it was stained light brown sometime at the beginning of war. The wonderful 1/700 Maya by Claudio Matteini showcased in this volume has the canvas light brown.

Wartime photos are usually quite blurred and it is generally not easy to distinguish between worn white and light brown. Does anybody have some more info on this subject?

What about other classes - Aobas, Mogamis...?

[Atma]

I use Tamiya colour's and for the blast bags I use the XF-2 =Flat White with 30% or 20% X-12=Gold Leaf, for a yellowish shade.

[Dan K]

Prewar and early war are white; that is obvious from comparison to sailor uniforms and other artifacts.

Midwar on is more difficult to say. I think they moved to a unbleached canvas, which is a yellow off- white, and then, possibly, even dyed the canvas. But, not sure if it's a light brown or gray. No one seems to say. I've been choosing the darker canvas to brownish sort of shade, FWIW.