To HMS Victory and beyond

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Hello Dan

you do not hesitate for a second :big_eyes: but when it's not good ,after ,we may regret
courage for the following
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Do not worry Bosco, if it goes wrong, I put same aging over it and declare the bug a feature: That HAS to be this way ;-)

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Hello Dafi,
I think you are "masochist"! :heh:
What a fantastic micro world :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
J'aime, :wave_1:
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Sooooooooo it looks already a bit more friendly by now ...

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... closed the gaps with Evergreen and Apoxy-Sculpt ...

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... and the new steps are a awaiting :-)

A good trick to get an even result ist to just first fix every second one ...

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... and use the ones in between to average out the rhythm :-)

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And to finish put the crown onto its place :-)

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And now some other important steps in life :-)

Applied a very thin layer of paint to judge the situation ...

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... and realised immediately that some steps were applied a bit crooked. So taking them down carefully, reglueing and filling the gaps.
(see viewtopic.php?p=617011#p617011 )

Prepared the doorway of the port ...

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... carved the panelling ...

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... and it looks already more friendly than some days ago :-)

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Sheer determination...

admirable tenacity! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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Hello Dan

good recovery ,as if nothing had happened ,well done :thumbs_up_1:
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Thank you Jim and Nicolas, very appreciated!!!

Painted the side parts of the entry port, first yellow ochre ...

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... added the gold ...

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... starts to look quite noble :-)

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Then the old question about closing the port:

Just for discussion: once like a gunport lid solid ...

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... and once painted sailcloth on a wooden frame like the bulkheads.

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Both Versions ...

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... on the backside once a solid board, once as a frame, both with eyebolts to hold.

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And now again the question - how was the side entry port closed?!?

Asked Karl Heinz Marquardt, he knows of no system, even speculates on leaving the port open. I believe there must have been something as there were sleeping hammocks just beside. As all doors or other permanent fittings were sooner or later represented in models, I guess upon a flexible solution, a board or a frame with sailcloth, logically fixed on the outside like a gunport lid but held towards the inner side by eyebolts and rope.

So any idea or even better proves how it was fixed ?!?

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And as I was on the go, the old paneling on the other side ...

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... was thrown out too and replaced.

But as a goody ...

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... I fixed the ropes to help to go aloft :-)

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After the second side entry port here another "unfinished business": One of the 4 rows of draughtmarks was still missing.

After some fights with the other rows I tried a new way ...

... glued the parts face down on both sided tape ...

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.. and sprayed the back with spray glue. Then cut loose ...

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... flipped up and grabbed with pliers (no tweezers!) ...

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... placed it and pressed in place with some tweezers.

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Still can be moved around and be turned in peace and quiet ...

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...and applied some very thin CA with a pointed wooden stick for permanent fixation.

Better result than the other ones and in record time and no part flew int nirvana :-)

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XXXDAn
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Hello Dan

the side entry completed is superb :thumbs_up_1: bravo
and the method for glued the numbers seems very effective :thumbs_up_1:
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And here I go again.

Wanted to do something easy for once ...

... took some sheet and made the lids for the stern ports ...

... rememberd not to do a rabbet on all sides ...

... after having done it si cured it with 05 mm x 5 mm Evergreen.

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Was happy mac to finally use some of my etch parts on my own build :-)

Made 0,7 mm ringlets ...

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... mounted them on the eyebolts, blackened them, mounted them , painted the lids ...

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... fixed them on the appropriate place and put the lanyards.

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And what can one already see on the picture? Break, Intermezzo, short review

Sometimes in spring 2011 (it was April 11., at 14.41 o�clock) I pimped my rudder ...

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... but what has it to do with my actual build?

Ok, here we go. Nicely into the groove, I wanted to do the rudder pendants. Realised that the eyebolt to hold them - fixed somehow years ago and now hidden underneath the port lid and therefor inaccessible - and replaced it beside the port on stemwards. Fixed the pendants as seen on the Vic in P., taking care that the sweep of the rudder is not limited by it ...

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... und gleich den fehlenden oberen Beschlag des oberen Fingerlings entdeckt und erg�nzt.

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One can guess, troubles were already waiting to strike!

If one looks close, one can see three things: Why is the pendant dragging the waters? Why is the end of the tiller pointing out that far? And why did me stupid make the rudder blade that high for that now canvas cover can be fixed ?!?

Questions over questions ...

If you look at the picture before the intermezzo, one can see already the shortened tiller - no easy task as the rudder cant be taken out any more and is only hanging on the fable pintles - and also the rudder blade was shortened by some 5 mm - one can guess also no easy task as the rudder cant be taken out any more and is only hanging on the fable pintles.

Both me and the model survived and the pendants were fixed with some freshly repositioned eyebolts as seen on contemporary models and also as described by Lee.

The ropes leading to the channels are not the real ones yet - those should have 11 inch (after Steel) as they should hold some things in case of emergency. By the way the same size as the buoy rope!

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Still a small goody:

the wooden lock to avoid the unshipping of the rudder!

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Here in place ...

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... and as it looks too nice, the whole ensemble :-)

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What an amazing build!

You helped me decide not to build the 1/100 Heller kit (a childhood dream of mine) though! When I build Victory it will be 1/300 scale, just to stop myself from getting into the madness you are in! :)

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Victory in 1:300 scratch?!?

THIS will beat me! Be ashured I will watch!

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Nono, luckily there is a very nice kit by Rod Langton Miniatures in 1/300.
This is a very nice build by Kerry Lang: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html

Now, Redoutable I would have to scratch if I want to put her alongside... :)

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Appearently the draught marks were made of lead, so I tried it out and colored them grey. Fits to the ones from the Royal George
http://collections.rmg.co.uk/collection ... 63420.html

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Looks cute :-)

And as I am famous for jumping from one extreme to the other, now something completely different: After the extrem aft, now the extrem front ;-)

Also colored the draught marks ...

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... and build the lids of the small port. Rectangular looks different ;-)

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Painted ...

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... placed and marked the holes of the fittings ...

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... and stuck them provisorily into place.

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Yo, even the old witch�s house in Ludwigsburg�s fairy tale garden looks more rectangular ...

... really!

XXXDAn
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One should always stick to his original plans ...

... in a moment of fancy and craziness I decided to move the date of appearance of the model from mid August to the first minutes of the battle.

"... cathead shot away ..." sounded quite interesting and with a well aimed and highly qualified chop I severed the cathead and the result was just as I wanted it to be :-)

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But then the disillusionment, yes even panic: I did not read the source to the end, as it was "... starboard ..." �:-(

OKOKOK, glued back the cathead and returned to plan A, where I know the sources better ...

... better it is ...

...

... jo!

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Do not worry, I am back to the path of virtue, just finished the half lids ...

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... there still will come some coils over the eyebolts.

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Good news, the fore channels are "only" 3 mm too narrow ...

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... so have to find the least messy way of fixing that as all the irons are in place and well fixed ...

... but in the meantime next parts are in preparation to be fixed ...

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... and are by now waiting in the blackening soup :-)

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... unfinished business, don�t go into the light ...

... still have to fix the outside of the side tackles ...

... but tell me how, yes how?!?!

All easy? The hook already being fixed on the tackle, but the eyebolt still missing.

Ok, sticky business ...

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... once through the hull and ramming the sting deep into the meat! Better than drilling and no mess :-)

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Maneuvering the eyebolt deep inside of the hull with the help of some thin tweezers ...

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... and juggle the hook with other pointed things into the eyebolt.

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Almost like a bottle ship - just omit the bottle and take a deep-deep hull instead ...

XXXDAn

PS: Hurra, there is a light at the end of the tunnel ...

PPS: ... another train?

PPPS: ...
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