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Great project!

I don't think so, don't take it badly, I don't know you, you have only one message on this forum and a file that goes in the wild can be commercially diverted without me having almost nothing to say against it, it happened to a friend with ship plans. I think you will understand this. I don't know which country you live in either, but it is possible to make a 1:400 resin copy for you.

But we would like to know more about your project by opening a topic.

Dynd wrote:

Iceman 29 wrote:Thank you Tom! you have motivated me well to support this proud ship, because I had not planned anything at the base, while it was being carried by its mother ship.

Moreover it allows me to improve my experience of making dry docks for possible future dioramas, I like this subject which I know well. It's not to say that I don't want to make the boat-dock for this one in order to enhance the decor a little more. Just add an element at the end of the dry dock.


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Hi Pascal. I love the drydock! I think it�s a great idea for a display. I am currently building my first ever model, a 1/400 Nomadic. And I was wondering if you could share the 3D file of the dock with me?

Pascal,

A question in regards to a comment you made a while ago - filtering resin for emptying/filling the 3D printer vat - what type/density etc. of filter are you using? I located a 200 micron on Amazon and wonder if that's sufficient, too small openings, or ???

Any advice is welcomed!

Hank

Hello Hank, i used this type of paint filter. Very nice, and not too expensive, i don�t know the mesh size, but it�s ok.

https://www.amazon.fr/gp/product/B07TFC ... UTF8&psc=1

Pascal,

Thanks - I'll check that out today!!

Hank

After a few days of "holidays", back to the design of the drydock, this time on the boat side.

I drew both sides for ease of design, but the diorama will only include 2/3 of the dry dock width to better present the ship. The caisson will be cut to 3/4 of its length as well, so we will see the inside, in part...

The drydock will be shorter than the original, because at 1/200 it would take up too much space.

The caisson is almost finished, I'm going to reach 1000 rivets. I have a good hundred more to add. I made them more prominent so that they stand out better after the different coats of paint.

I have changed the project a bit, it's a shame to cut the door boat in two, so I'm going to keep the other side of the quay where the door is, so it will be held on both sides in situation. But I wouldn't put the side of the dry dock, that doesn't change.

I'm tempted to pour resin on the outside to represent the water in the harbour. I would tint it slightly green so that the door and the bottom can be seen through. To dig as they say...

Some pictures of the progress, it is of course a free interpretation of the caisson, I did not find a plan.

how very excellent!!

The Caisson is a thing of beauty!, -

-the whole project has grown " arms and legs " !

Best wishes
JIM B

The Caisson with the new decking looks all the world as a prototype aircraft carrier. The keel blocks I am familiar with (different era!) were concrete with lifting eyes and wrought iron dogs which had angled pointed ends which were hammered into the wooden sleepers that cushioned the hulls, for retention.

Have you considered (or are using) magnets to secure the Nomadic on the blocks and yet allow it t be removable?

Very imaginative! Tom

Amazing work. Love the dry dock

Thanks, Jim, Tom, Martin.

For the fixing, it will be done with pieces of piano wire that will be invisible.

That should do it. With the fish of course!

Looks really Good! The only thing I see, too late to add, is many dry-docks just inside the sill will have a "sump" to allow any leakage to be pumped and keep the deck dry.

One of the best "display bases" I've seen! Tom

When you get around to adding the water, if you want to achieve a realistic appearance of depth look at some of the techniques model railroaders use to model log ponds, stock ponds and rivers. Some are photo realistic!

Phil

@ Tom, I followed your advice, I drew two sumps as I could see them in the different dry docks I went to. I have two pipes and valves to add.



@Phil, i'll use this method:

https://youtu.be/PM_-WBmbNJc



Paint test on a sample.

Quite amazing what can be done with 3D-computer modelling these days. Looking forward to the 'real' thing too.

I doubt that the waters around these docks would be so clear that one could see any fish When casting larger volumes of (epoxy) resin around plastic parts, one has to be cautious, as the curing is an exothermic process and the resulting heat can distort the parts. Acrylic resin (not gel !) might be better for delicate parts, but is more expensive.

Personally, I would not cast, but make a sort of box from acrylic sheet. The surface I would structure with acrylic gel that also covers the joints between the model and the acrylic sheet. There special cements to join acrylic sheets virtually invisibly (the cement essentially is uncured acrylic glass).

I'm going to do a test with the resin, thank.

It's going well, drawing the joints of the stones takes a lot of time for the programme...

We are now at the end for the drawing. There are still the lampposts of the time, the guardrails, the quay capstans, the bollards.



The only existing period photo that helps me a lot, especially for the "accessories".



Other interesting illustrations:

Pascal:

The dry dock adds a great deal of historical interest! The mossy green patches on the stones is a great effect. I suppose some dry brushing and use of model railroad weathering chalks might work well also. When I built up the superstructure of Alaska I utilized plexiglas with some sort of special plexiglass "glue". The guys who build frameless display cases use something like this. Good luck with your experimentation! Tom

Thank Tom!

I'm making progress with the dry dock, but yesterday I had some printing problems that made me lose time and money. As the new version of the Slicer Chitubox was finally available for the mono X (several bugs have delayed the possibility of using it for several months to slice the V 1.81 parts), I used it probably too confidently to print the final parts of the dry dock. The slicer is visibly bugged again, I got some horrors deformed on the printing plate and it damaged my FEP film of the bottom of the tray that I had to replace and lost a significant amount of resin..., I had just replaced it on top of that.

So I would never use Chitubox again except to place the supports, it's the most practical, I re-saves it in STL once the supports are installed, and I reload it in anycubic's slicer to do the slicing. So that's how I proceeded after replacing the film, and the printing went perfectly this time.

It's annoying to see the incompetence of some people sometimes... The comments on the Chitubox forum have not been kind for several weeks.

After yesterday's setbacks beyond my control, my printer has regained its optimum capacity and is running at full capacity today. All good things. I am particularly pleased with the result, we are getting closer to 3D drawing.

I have started painting the deck of caisson n�50 (construction number), which is the name of its baptism at Harland & Wolff, as it is considered a ship in its own right.

Nothing is glued nor adjusted, nor really deburred.

It will make a great diorama when finished!

Wow. That's some cool sh*t right there.

Pascal,

The dry dock makes a great setting for the ship model!

I had been thinking of building a dry dock base for my CLG-5 model (if I ever get around to building it) based upon a drydock we occasionally went into in Yokosuka, Japan. It was used for the Yamato and Musashi during WWII. Seeing your model drydock and how well it works with the Nomadic, I will probably make one.

As in your case with a dry dock large enough for the Titanic being a bit oversized for the Nomadic, the dry dock in Yokosuka was large enough to hold four of the cruisers! I will need to scale it down.

Phil

This part of the project is what the model railroaders call "Scenery". Certainly they are experts on creating water effects, weathering and generally the impression of a somewhat worn in environment. Sometimes in the pristine portraiture of our ships as just commissioned , out of the builders or whatever is a different approach.

Ah water.... Some of the folks on this site are quite the simulated water artists. My Alaska mostly lacks just that, water as it's a WL model. Be nice to finish something... I even built a special table for it from Walnut and birch.

Cheers: Tom