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Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:48 am
by skyking
sirmaumau wrote:Quite amazing!! it seems that you've scrapped a lot of original parts and choose semi-scratchbuid.could you tell me how to shape the brass parts.THANKS!
I use a variety of different tools, but the ones I use most are smooth duckbill pliers. There's a host of PE bending tools you can buy, Etchmate is the one that most comes to mind that are also usefull. For round shapes I have some home made tools made from different diameters of brass and aluminum tube and steel rod. I just use whichever fits the shape best. Thank you for your comments, I appreciate them.

Gopher, Jim and Sten, thank you for the replies. I can appreciate what you say Jim. There's usually one or two gremlins that pop up during any build.

Sten please post some pictures of yours. I'd be curious to see how you tackle some of the same issues I am facing. I am doing mine as a full hull version. I have the same opinion as Mr. Landrum that a waterline doesn't give the same impression of bulk that these old war horses had. I am going to add the keels as outlined in Mr. Landrums build, but as far as the hull shape it is what it is. During any build there's factors I feel I have to fix, and there's those that I am willing to let slide. The hull shape is one of those things I am willing to let slide. I'll let better modelers than me tackle that part of the ship..lol. Thanks for your comments.

Cheers
Mike

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:26 pm
by TRM
Mike,

Superb build! I noticed after picking up the 1/350 Missouri (on the bench...) the greater level of detail that can be accomplished. I have enjoyed catching up on the build and am looking forward to new posting.

Thanks!

Cheers!

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 6:21 pm
by BFR4570
Beautiful build so far, Mike! I am looking forward to seeing the rest. I plan to start mine soon as practice for when I get the 1/200 Trumpeter Arizona. This thread and Charles Landrum's will be my working instructions. I have one question re: the Engineering Hatches on the Quarterdeck. Can you tell me why you opted for the old raised metal Hatch? Instead of the scribed wood deck, as on Mr. Landrum's and the current new model at the Arizona Memorial?

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:52 pm
by TRM
Mike,

Don't know if it helps or not, I ran across this Blog on the Arizona. Lot of construction shots. Scroll down looking at the right side...."boat-load" of blog on just about everything. Just tons of pics. :cool_1:

http://anonymous-generaltopics.blogspot ... izona.html

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 8:13 pm
by mark_sch
Hello Mike,
Your work so far is outstanding. Thank you for sharing this build with us.
Mark

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:00 pm
by skyking
Thanks everyone for the recent comments. Wow it's been ages since I've posted anything on this. I've been busy over the summer with finishing my basement into an Estrogen-Free zone Mancave, so all modeling projects have ground to a halt until I get it finished, and I just haven't been active on any of the forums over the summer. Hopefully within the next few weeks I can get back to this.


TRM, BFR and Mark, thanks for dropping by. TRM the link you provided was way cool. SOme of those pictures I have not seen before.
Can you tell me why you opted for the old raised metal Hatch? Instead of the scribed wood deck, as on Mr. Landrum's and the current new model at the Arizona Memorial?
I'm going to have to plead ignorance BFR. Since these pictures were posted I have learned otherwise and they will get corrected. I have lots of the decking left over. I'll reproduce them in that.

Thanks again for keeping the dust from collecting too deep on this one.

Cheers
Mike

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 6:20 pm
by TRM
Mike,

Good luck with the mancave. Problem with making one too nice, they want it and you end up in the garage! :cool_2:

Looking forward to seeing some progress. Get settled, and get back to work! LOL

Cheers! :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:40 pm
by mabmanu
SUPERBE ... :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 1:47 pm
by tomcat Fanatic
I also bought HB Arizona last week, together with Pola..

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:41 pm
by Sten Ekedahl
tomcat Fanatic wrote:I also bought HB Arizona last week..
Good Luck! You'll need it (together with loads of PC, etched details, resin stuff, brass barrels, a h-ll of a lot of filler and especially unlimited patience)! :tongue:

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 1:25 pm
by tomcat Fanatic
MHMM.. I know..
sory for OT
I also bought Hobby boss, RM Pola 1/350 scale, ( I plan to build that one first, plan to use. metal barrels and railings, does anything exsist for this ship )

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2010 5:02 pm
by mark_sch
Hello,
Has there been an updates to your ship, Mike?
Mark

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:38 pm
by Hippy Ed
Interesting build up :thumbs_up_1: any progress on this?

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:44 pm
by skyking
Hi Ed, Mark,

Yes actually there has, and I'm embarrassed to admit that I really haven't photo-documented the rest of the progress much. I do have a few pictures here that I'll share and try to get everyone caught up. The only things I'm waiting on are anchor chains and screws, but the rest of the ship is done. I'll try to pick up where I left off from two years ago. Yikes.

At last update, I had most of the deck painted, was in midst of repairs of a couple of screw ups, and starting to work on the super-structure. Many modifications had to be done to the stack, the Flag Bridge, Navigation Bridge, RF Platform and Foremast top. Also the configuration of both fighting tops had to be modified from the 1941 fit, as I decided to bring mine back to 1936 outfit. Some trials and tribulations along the way, I had to redo the stack twice because of my inability to read a ruler, and the modifications to the kit parts all required constant test fitting and refitting to make sure everything would line up.

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I had to scratchbuild both masts, and rather than try to do it on the boat itself, I made a jig with the locations marked out, and the block for the foremast at the hieght of the RF platform. This way I could cut everything to fit, glue the platforms on at the correct hieghts, and assemble the masts as subassemblies to be installed later on. It worked quite well that way. I was able to install all railings, details, ladders etc before hand, then when all the superstructure was installed, merely plop the masts into place. Worked like a charm.

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Here's the two assembled masts being test fit. I used the Eduard Big Ed set for all my brass, and it fit and worked quite well. I did not use a lot of the parts because they were different than the '36 fit. In this shot all the major structure decks have been modified, and this is the second of three iterations of the stack assembly. In this one I had the stack right, but the platforms on either side for the directors are way too far forward. I ended up ripping it apart and doing it over a third tme.

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Here's the deck after the final filter coat of light tan oil paint was applied and left to dry. And dry. and dry some more... holy crap this stuff takes forever to dry. Three weeks later I it was finally dry so that I could work on it without smudging it. Pleased with the technique but you can't be in a rush. You can see the difference between the pre filter and post filter. The different deck boards are all much more uniform, yet you can still see the different boards to good effect.

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All the deck details were scratchbuilt or bits from the Big Ed set. I scratchbuilt all the wildcats, the anchor windlasses, vents, anchor chain ways, and bits. PE was used for hatch covers and grates.

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Aft deck showing more bits. I fixed the access covers from earlier. I had them as seperate metal covers, but it was brought to my attention they were deck material, so I simply scribed the outline in the deck and hit them with a wash to make them pop. I didn't want to use seperate parts, as it would have not been a level surface for the boat racks to be installed later.

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Here I've got the superstructure installed and railings are started. I've already lopped off the director platforms on the stack in preperation for doing them over. Again. Yay. lol.

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Stack is redone (and accurate too!), boats installed, 5/38's installed, and some of the 5/51's. I used Veteran Models 5/38's and they are gorgeous. I wish I could still get them. The 5/51's are WEM with Master brass barrels. For the Casemate guns, I wanted it to be visually interesting so I closed some off and left some open. All the stuff I put inside the casemate spaces is totally invisible, but hey... I know it's "in there" lol.

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Starting to look like something. Here I have the tops temporarily set in place to check for fit, alignment, and fortunately they were spot on. I've begun to add the masts and yards, all scratchbuilt.

Shot of the Main Mast top before painting. I used various bits of brass and plastic for all the stuff hanging off it. Because the Eduard tops were just flat slabside bits of PE with no detail, I framed all the windows with .010 x .005 strip to give it some relief.


Since these pictures were taken, more has been done. All the guns are in place, I added all the rest of the railings, paravanes, searchlights, rigged it with a couple of different sizes of nylon mono and EZ Line, added the anchors and tops, and the ship itself, with the exception of the props and anchor chains, is done for the most part. It's late in the evening as I type this, I will take some better pictures tomorrow when I have some daylight to shoot in.

Thanks for stopping by, and as always any comments or questions feel free.

Cheers
Mike

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 4:48 am
by LE BOSCO
wonderful job,very pleasant to look at,sp�cial mention for your deck "wood" to the view of the number of masks placed you were "more crazier" than me :-)
bravo
Nicolas

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:56 am
by skyking
Thank you Nicolas. Masking the boards wasn't that bad. Personally I find it easier to do that than to fiddle with a wood deck, but that's my opinion. Your milage may vary. :)

It's as close to being done as it's going to get, I am just waiting for the screws and anchor chains to come. I had some that I purchased for it eons ago when I started it, but I have no idea where they are, so a quick order to Brandon at Freetime went out. I should have them in a few days.

If you want to find all the boogers, nits and boo boo's on your model, shoot some macro pictures and look at them un-enlarged. Wow do they show up under the unforgiving eye of the macro lens. I have a short list of things to go back over and fix, repair or touch up, but other than that, stick a fork in it, she's done.

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OK seeing as Photobucket crashed with unrecoverable errors three times during uploading these I'll stop here.

As always comments and critiques welcome. Now on to that Roden Staggerwing.

Cheers
Mike

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:05 am
by MartinJQuinn
skyking wrote:I had to scratchbuild both masts, and rather than try to do it on the boat itself, I made a jig with the locations marked out, and the block for the foremast at the hieght of the RF platform. This way I could cut everything to fit, glue the platforms on at the correct hieghts, and assemble the masts as subassemblies to be installed later on. It worked quite well that way. I was able to install all railings, details, ladders etc before hand, then when all the superstructure was installed, merely plop the masts into place. Worked like a charm.
Great idea. Sounds so easy, somehow I think it wasn't. :)

Wonderful work, Mike. Look forward to seeing photos in the gallery.

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:51 pm
by mark_sch
Excellent job!!!!!!
Mark

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:08 pm
by PetrolGator
Wonderful!

Re: Hobby Boss 350th USS Arizona Humble Beginnings.

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 9:54 pm
by boomstick68
Incredible.