Re: Torpedoboot V106 in 1:200

PICKETBOAT · Post by **PICKETBOAT** » Wed Mar 14, 2012 3:43 pm

Yevgeniy

Thanks for the reply. What a coincidence that you should be interested in building the Schichua built early torpedo boats. I did have a idea that I might build one of these vessels at some stage. To this end, I opened a file and started getting together pictures and plans, but decided I could not get enough information. I'm sure you will have a better access to information than me, but if it is any help I am willing to share what I have. I also considered building the "Leitenant Ilin" torpedo cruiser of 1885 and again collected pictures but lacked a decent set of plans to make the project worth while. I did get some good photos but only small drawings and general deck arrangments which were not accurate enough. I was intending building it also at 1/48th scale (all my models are this same scale). Having built two destroyers I would like to build something a little larger next time, either a torpedo gunboat or small cruiser from the 1880's or 1890's.

Stephen

Yevgeniy · Post by **Yevgeniy** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:36 am

Stephen,

If you are interested in Kasatka type torpedo boat serving in Tsar fleet built in Schichau there is a good book with enough plans http://www.ruslania.com/language-1/enti ... 77721.html Also there is a thread on Russian forum, photos and plans are self-explanatory http://forums.airbase.ru/2012/02/t60412 ... .9164.html - after looking through that thread you will not find too much new information in the book I gave the reference to above.

Unfortunately I have not seen any plans for "Leitenant Ilin" torpedo cruiser so I can not be of much help. If you decide on particular 'torpedo gunboat or a small cruiser' from Russian Tsar fleet let me know and I will try to give you a link to Russian forumsfor plans and photos (if it is not a very rare ship in which case plans might be unavailable except in archives) if you are interested.

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

Egberth · Post by **Egberth** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:39 pm

For those interested in the early Schichau-torpedoboats this might be of interest:

http://www.smc-wuppertal.de/Schiffe/S%2033/S33.htm

It's the 1:100 RC model of the S 33 I built a few years ago. For this boat you can get a good plan f.e. here: http://www.christian-schmidt.com/produc ... ts_id=2628.

Richard J OMalley · Post by **Richard J OMalley** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:08 pm

Nice work,I love the way those things looked .

PICKETBOAT · Post by **PICKETBOAT** » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:41 pm

Richard

I have already built a model of a Yarrow 125ft torpedo boat of 1881 and am looking for a suitable torpedo delivery vessel from another country (same period) to build. This thread has given me lots to think about and research.
The Yarrow vessel surprised me with its sailing qualities but the ram bow does kick water over the fore deck just like the prototype.

Stephen

Richard J OMalley · Post by **Richard J OMalley** » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:48 am

Stephen

PICKETBOAT · Post by **PICKETBOAT** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:17 am

Yevgeniy and and other contacts.

Sorry but I slightly side tracked the end of this very informative thread by asking questions about other torpedo vessels.
I picked up lots of interesting and informative facts and tips about the V105 to V108 class, and still look forward to seeing the completed 1:200 model.
The 1/48th model I built of V105 had been sailing this season but I have yet to get any decent film footage to post on youtube. It will get done though. Thought you might like a still image. Careful attention to weight distribution makes it a great model to sail and fitting smoke units adds a nice effect.

Good modelling
PICKETBOAT

Yevgeniy · Post by **Yevgeniy** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:25 am

Great to see your model! Looking forward to your youtube link when you have time and wish to make a video.

My V106 in 1:200 is frozen as some other projects and is a low priority for me at now - I got into wooden kit (partwork) building (Spanish galeon) strongly requested by my junior and I could not resist - and as this (working with wood and saling ships in general) also a new area for me I move veeeery slowly esp as 1:1 world makes new challenges. Sorry not to meet expectations but it is as it is.

Would be happy to see pics of V105-108 ships in this thread whoever would like to do so.

Cheers,

Yevgeniy

DrPR · Post by **DrPR** » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:11 pm

Picketboat,

Nice model! The smoke does make a great effect. What type of smoke generator did you use?

Phil

PICKETBOAT · Post by **PICKETBOAT** » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:53 am

Phil

There is no extra buoyancy in this 1/48th scale slim shallow hull, for inserting the water powered smoke generators, currently in vogue. This model like my previous model (HMS Velox) is fitted with the Graupner 6V smoke generators. These are originally designed for model trains. I have found that they work well and safely on 7.2V and make a good amount of smoke. I fitted one in each funnel casing and then then put a small 12V (laptop cooling) fan, running on 4.8V, in the hull. The slight draft from this is ducted to the funnel bases with 20mm plastic tube. This ensures the smoke comes out realistically rather than just drifting out. The smoke units were modified to increase their oil capacity to extend running time. Smoke units and fan are controlled by a servo fitted with a plastic cam and two micro switches. Smoke running time about 30min.
The down side is that the main model power(6V), the receiver power(4.8V), the smoke unit power(7.2V) and the fan power(4.8V) each have a separate battery and on board charging circuit so charging the model involves plugging in 4 different chargers! The plus is that there is no radio interference and nothing on board is draining power from another function. This system has been working faultlessly for 3 years in my other model which has 3 funnels (3 Graupner smoke units).

WARNING Running these units on 7.2V seems to be fine (3 years fault free) but I always use the manufacturers own smoke oil. Using other oils (with lower flash points) might be risky. Going onto any higher voltage than 7.2V is very risky. I can not be held responsible for any thing going wrong. Everything worked fine for me but bench test everything first.

Good luck

PICKETBOAT