Hasegawa's 1:350 IJN Mikasa with Lion Roar

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Hi Guido...

You are probably right.. but the nice thing about Mikasa is that most of it can be built as subassemblies so I have left off all the superstructure until much later and will build as much as I can off the ship. The other thing is that I want to get the ship mounted on its base as soon as possible (if you remember you mentioned this in an earlier post - that by waterlining the model you found the hull went into a 'banana' shape and to fix it to a base as soon as possible. Jim also mentioned doing exactly that too... but so I could handle the base rather than the model, especially later on.

Well, all the things I am doing now I think are easier to do while I have the ship unmounted. The torpedo net shelves, the admirals walkway and other details on the hull are much more accessible with the ship off the mounting base. I am fitting them all with the model upside down. I can paint everything, do all the weathering and detail the hull sides and then, once that is completed, add all the wooden decks and glue the thing down knowing that everything below the deck line is complete.

The only time the ship is the right way up is when I take photographs. The rest of the time she is sitting on her deck, belly up on my workbench!

Once the net shelves and the admirals walkway is finished and airbrushed, the base will be prepared and the model glued down... from then on I won't need to handle her at all and everything will be a lot more conventional - I promise! :big_grin:

Right, football over. Manchester United won, Manchester City lost and all is right with the world... On to thinning down the walkway and adding the support brackets (upside down! :big_grin: ) and then the tedium of all the port side net shelf brackets (also upside down...) Imagine doing those later on with the rest of the model built...? :thumbs_up_1:
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Ok... been a bit busy this week, but nevertheless managed to finish all the torpedo net shelf brackets... all 90 of them... damn... that was tedious, but am so glad I've finally finished! :woo_hoo:

Anyway, carried on with the admirals walkway and that is nearly done now. Just need to put the support brackets on and airbrush it all.

I used some very fine brass rod to start with. I annealed it, which made it easy to shape, but when it was bent to shape and then placed on the model I thought it may have been a little over scale. I sent a quick picture to Jim B and he thought it was a little oversized too.

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Jim suggested some copper wire from an electrical appliance lead. Luckily I hadn't glued the first attempt at the handrail in place yet, and well, with Jim pushing me to do better, I had a second attempt... I decided to glue it on in steps as pre-forming it with wire this thin was going to be a nightmare...

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Once finished, I was much happier. Amazing how such a small difference can have such a big impact in the overall 'feel' of the thing...

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...and viewed from the stern...

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Right... I have the support brackets under the walkway to do now, then some airbrushing... But am pleased with this... it's good to have such a demanding mentor who continually pushes me to try harder! :big_grin:

EDIT: Just noticed some excess white glue above the name plate in the centre of the railing... that will look awful once airbrushed... got rid of it by scrubbing it off with a wet paintbrush... Phew... computer screens and closeup photography!!! :smallsmile:

EDIT: 2 Added the brackets... I used the 34 gauge wire in the end... so that completes the walkway for the moment. Not sure I'm going to bother with the ornate brass on the handrail...I'll see what I think later.

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and...

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HI Bill


you did a very nice job on your stern,very convincing :thumbs_up_1: for eliminate traces of glue, I use a scraper,in fiberglass,a tool very very effective in this work .I do not know if you know this tool?
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Thanks Nicolas... I think glue is the area I need to improve on. Slightly messier than I would like to be... particularly when I see the Nagato in the WIP... that IS neat PE assembly!

Anyway, have to go to town with my son, but before leaving I gave the hull a quick airbrush after adding a few more tiny details. When I get back I will give it a thorough gloss coat and then some washes, a matt coat and then some dry brushing and weathering with pastels and then fix it to the base :woo_hoo:

In the meantime, here are some pictures or the model post airbrushing the base colour. I think it's a little dark... (Tamiya Kure grey).

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Lucky Togo, he now can have a very nice walk :thumbs_up_1:
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Don't be so hard on yourself Bill,
your attention to detail is first class,
and the P/E looks great.
Keep up the good work, I look forward to the rest of this great build.
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Decided to do the main guns while waiting for the grey to dry and harden properly prior to a protective varnish and then weathering with pin washes, oils and pastels... in the meantime...

...main gun barrels cut off with a razor saw and mounted... PE observation slots on turrets placed. That's pretty much it for today.

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Couldn't rest playing with the various sub assemblies... :big_grin:

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Hi All,

Did the weathering on the hull today... well, most of it.

I followed Dave Griffiths advice on filters and then pin washes. I normally do a full wash and then a dry brush afterwards. This was the first time I tried using filters. Black wasn't too bad... but the white was a bit scary! Still... by having VERY diluted white oil paint and applying an almost dry brush in downward strokes over the length of the hull and then going over a few irregular sections, panel lightening seems to work. Pleased with the overall results, although at the time it looked like nothing much was happening!!!!

As it happened, I followed Dave's advice to the letter and if anything, underdid the filters a little... The differences are very subtle... almost unnoticeable... when you are actually doing it, but I resisted the temptation to over do it. Rather than go through the whole technique, I strongly recommend Dave's book, Ship Models from Kits. Thanks Dave... a great tutorial which I have read many times... but this was my first attempt at your method rather than go my own way.

Here are the results (I still have to do the pastels, but nearly done...) Once I have added the net booms and the rolled net I can finally fit the wood deck and mount it on it's seascape and get on with actually building the thing! :big_grin:

BEFORE:

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AFTER:

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... and Jim, that Winsor and Newton acrylic varnish is superb. What do you normally dilute it to for airbrushing? I was using 50/50 varnish and distilled water...


Thanks all... :thumbs_up_1:
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HI Bill


Great job :thumbs_up_1: Your work of weathering Is very well ,Discreet, but present!
Good luck for the rest
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Beautiful work, Bill. I love what you did with the after walkway. Very impressive. As an admittedly "average" at best, modeler, it always amazes me to see what you and others can do, especially with PE, which tends to bedevil me under the best of circumstances. You obviously have a gift for working with those fine parts, honed, I'm sure, by lots and lots of practice to develop that gift. I'll be looking forward to your next update of your very impressive work.

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Thank you Bob and everyone else for your kind comments.

I have been getting on with Mikasa, jus hadn't taken many photo's, so thought I had better do a quick update.

I decided to add the fore and aft casemates to the underside of the boat deck pieces rather than to the deck itself as it meant zero masking and it seemed more sensible as I wanted to fit the wooden deck pieces and be able to work with the boat decks removed to place crew and add the guns etc. In the picture the boat decks are just in place... they are not glued.

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And again...

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The deck fitted in place pretty well. When I was test fitting I thought that perhaps there was going to be a few gaps or areas where it wouldn't quite reach... not the case once done. The wood deck fitted very well indeed. It looks OK too...

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Again, the bridge deck here is not glued in place... too much to fit to start permanently fixing things in place yet... but it gives me an idea of what it all looks like and any potential areas to work on. I know I have an unusual way of working... but I tend to paint as I assemble and do a lot of test fitting and working out the easiest sequence for me...

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I'm finishing off the torpedo nets. I ended up using shoe laces which I then tied a loop of very fine brass wire (34 gauge braiding wire) around every 7.5mm to represent the net brails. I then airbrushed it black and dry brushed it with various browns, rusts and polished steel and then washed the whole thing in Raw Umber oil paint to tone everything down and blend it all together. Once it is fitted to the model I will add rust and other weathering with pastels... The pictures are not great.. I had to use my son's iPhone 3g and the camera isn't as good as the iPhone 4... but you can get an idea. They look pretty good in real life... if I had known they would look like this when I started I wouldn't have been so un-enthused though out the making of them... to say it was a bit of a chore is an understatement...!

The picture below shows just after they were airbrushed black and the rear one just after the first dry brushed brown... since then there are a number of different washes and dry brushed colours, but my son took his iPhone back to his mothers and mine isn't here... so no 'finished' pictures :smallsmile:

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Anyway... enough for now. More tomorrow hopefully :thumbs_up_1:
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Bill

Looking very nice. Gotta get my act together and start building.

Where did you get your oak base?
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Thank you

I had several oak bases made up by a local carpentry shop last year. I like the look of oak... it looks modern, but still has a softness about it... plus it matches the furniture in my living room.. I used one of them for my 700 scale Renown at the time (still need to rig it... damn... :heh: )

I used the Trumpeter large long case as a pattern and asked them to route out a channel for the perspex lid to fit in place. For this model I will probably make a glass case to the same size but a little taller for Mikasa in 350... The masts will be pretty tall :thumbs_up_1:
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Hi Bill
A very very good job Bill :thumbs_up_1:
I am not a fan about this naval period but this kit is very interesting in term of way of built.

see you soon

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Hmmmm... done quite a lot over the past few days but looking back at the previous post it doesn't look like all that much... I suppose thats the downside of dry fitting everything for the photographs... :heh:

Anyway... here we go...

The torpedo net proved more of a pain than I thought... I tried all sorts of materials and colours and arrangements... on this version I used some 34 gauge wire to make the net brails rolled around the nets... but they came up far too big in the end even using the thinnest materials I could find at the time.

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In the end I used a very fine shoelace and decided to add the net brails later and leave it a little more even and tightly rolled... They are still much thicker than I would have liked... but they were the thinnest laces available at a really specialised cobbler...

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The base colour was airbrushed using browns, steel, greys and blacks... there is a lot more variation than the photo suggests... but I still need to add more colour with pastels and so on later on... plus it is still gloss varnished... not had time to matt everything down yet, which is also what the ship looks a lot darker than previous photo's... all vertical faces are gloss at the moment.

Spent a long time assembling and cleaning up the various parts that need to be added at the stage. Used Tamiya's Fine Surface primer for the first time. I usually use Halfords grey primer, but this is much better... a far better finish, less grainy and very fine indeed. I will be using it in the future.

Airbrushing some detail parts...

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I had airbrushed the inside of the vents dark red and then needed to mask them to get a nice clean edge starting just inside the vent itself... In the end I used my punch set and made up some plastic discs that fitted inside held in place with Blu-Tak. This proved to be a good idea as I could spend time making sure everything was square and even...

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The Tamiya Primer did a great job of priming the brass barrels and dried pretty hard. A coat of Future hardened it further and since then, no paint flaking off (which I have had a problem with in the past).

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I have still got a lot to do inside the boat deck and will add figures under near the gun batteries and just generally milling around. I'll do that before I fix the boat decks and funnels in place so I can get them 'inside' the ship.

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I weathered the hull sides a little more as it was perhaps a little too subtle before. Again, the photo's don't really do justice to the colour variation along the sides of the jul and I still have to add black and rust streaks with pastel... but I always do that when the ship is matted down as the matt paint has a better 'grip' and you can afford to be pretty subtle with it...

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Overall I am making progress, albeit slowly. She is beginning to take shape now... so once I have added the torpedo net booms and crew and all the armament I'll mount it on the seascape to prevent damage and make it easier to hold without giving myself heart attacks every few minutes... I can then get on with building the fore and after bridges as sub assemblies and do the funnel stay rigging. I'm looking forward to the deck houses as they are really intricate and the Lion Roar set provides the deck houses as PE to assemble... good fun! :big_grin:

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I cut the masts off the sprue and put them in place to see how everything looks. The lower masts appear strong enough for rigging, but the upper masts are nowhere near strong enough for sprue rigging and there is going to be a lot of it. I'll have to look at alternative upper masts in tube or rod... unless someone knows of a commercially available mast set for Mikasa?

Anyway... a final three photo's... Will get on with the net booms and crew for under the boat deck tomorrow... :thumbs_up_1:

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The variation in colour was done using Dave Griffith's method of very diluted washes in white, black, blue and burnt umber...

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(Apologies for the quality of the photo's... I had to use my son's iPhone 3GS as my iPhone 4s went back to my old employer... amazing how different the cameras are!)
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Looking great there Bill.
The wood deck makes such a difference and the rear platform has made me re-think my effort.

Again the mesh net has given me food for thought and the way you have done it.
I will be takeing some of your Idea's, 'well is this not what its is all about' :smallsmile: .

Brilliant stuff.

'Oh' and thanks for your help and advice.
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HI Bill

your mikasa is superb,a nice paint job and weathering :thumbs_up_1:
and the idea of the shoelace ,is retain,I wait the next progres
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This is some incredible work you have going on, Bill. This is greatly fantastic.

It looks like you have plenty of detail pictures of Miska. I am in Yokosuka right now so if you would like I can see if I can get some more pictures if you need them.
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