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Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 1:54 pm
by Chelonian
That battle damage looks very convincing - great job.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 3:20 pm
by LE BOSCO
just sublim Marijn

a great lesson of weathering
cheers
Nicolas
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 4:29 pm
by Goodwood
This day may have been a long time in coming, but boy oh boy is it worth it!

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 5:41 pm
by ModelMonkey
Brilliant!
Great eye for detail and subtle paint and coloring features.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 6:31 pm
by Joe Simon
I see another book coming! Congratulations on a brilliant masterpiece!
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:17 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks guys!
The first feel is there, but still a lot of 'layers' need to be added for the final effect. Still a lot of work to be done, but I'm really having fun!
Cheers,
Marijn
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 2:57 am
by Bangor lad
Superb and inspirational, Marijn.
David
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 3:49 am
by Milan Kuliffay
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:22 am
by Vladi
Really stunning!

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:45 am
by Dan K
Agreed. Just stunning work.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:51 am
by Goodwood
marijn van gils wrote:The first feel is there, but still a lot of 'layers' need to be added for the final effect. Still a lot of work to be done, but I'm really having fun!
You see, that's the difference between you and most other modelers I've seen. Many would take what you've got down so far and call it done, and that'd be perfectly fine even in a diorama setting. But simply knowing that, for you, this is
only the beginning, makes us practically drool for more. It's the whole 'orders of magnitude' that you take the craft to that makes us so excited.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:28 am
by EJFoeth
When seeing these light filters my first reaction was: oh no!

But I know shading lines will be added and will pull some lighter lines back to the dark side...
Nice to watch the progress; the hair spay technique works very well at 1:700!

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:25 pm
by zs180
Oh yes! That's exactly what I was expecting the paintjob to look like, but actually seeing it is so pleasing to my eye.
Looking forward with great anticipation for the rest of the weathering process!
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:41 am
by f14dtomcat
Marijn, I hope to meet you and see this masterpiece model at Scale Model Challenge in Veldhoven 21-22 October.
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 3:20 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks everyone!
EJFoeth wrote:When seeing these light filters my first reaction was: oh no!

But I know shading lines will be added and will pull some lighter lines back to the dark side...
Yes, it is often necessary to exaggerate the first weathering steps, because they will become less visible with subsequent layers.
The different techniques are not difficult at all to execute, but to combine them and achieve a balanced end result is more challenging and takes some experience. And a lot of messing around until it look ok!
@ f14dtomcat: I'll be there! The model will be far from ready, but probably I'll put it on the KMK clubstand anyway. Looking forward to meeting you!
Cheers,
Marijn
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 5:08 am
by EJFoeth
Ah indeed, when working in the 'wet' stage the colours are already more pronounced then when dried and after filtering the colours come closer again... I'll have to add a few light 'dusty' washed too to simulate salt (funnel, fwd superstructure, bow) but I'd probably take a correction brush to remove the light lines where you'd normally add a dark wash / line? I think the main area on the Amagi would be the bridge decks where the light gray accumulates against the bulkheads? Ah well, more layers are to follow so we'll see
A small Q on the hair spray technique: do you need to be careful with the current layer or is it now fixed? That is, will it stay on the model? I'd be worried you might accidentally remove part of the top layer...
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:34 am
by marijn van gils
Hello Evert-Jan!
EJFoeth wrote:I'd probably take a correction brush to remove the light lines where you'd normally add a dark wash / line? I think the main area on the Amagi would be the bridge decks where the light gray accumulates against the bulkheads?
It depends on what you want to achieve. For a dusty effect, you can let the light paint run into those corners and leave them there. You can also paint shadows next to them, which will lessen the effect a bit. Or you could paint shadows directly over them, which will eliminate the light lines as dark covers light paint easily.
But if you only want salt stains or light dust effects (which is more applicable to an active well maintained ship as opposed to a wreck), it might be best to not let the light paint accumulate and dry in the corners, if necessary by removing it with a correction brush like you propose. It is not necessary, but this way you'll get the best feel for the effect you are applying.
EJFoeth wrote:A small Q on the hair spray technique: do you need to be careful with the current layer or is it now fixed? That is, will it stay on the model? I'd be worried you might accidentally remove part of the top layer...
I airbrushed a coat of matt varnish over it to seal it. I would also be worried about the hairspray dissolving with the white spirit and more chips being generated.
Also in between each hairspray/paint layer, it is advisable to seal the previous layer with varnish, especially if masking will be needed.
Cheers,
Marijn
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:18 am
by JIM BAUMANN
good advice-- borne out be a visually very promising result!!
JB

Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:27 am
by JariL
Hi Marijn,
What is the story with the waterline?
Jari
Re: 1/700 Amagi diorama
Posted: Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:00 am
by marijn van gils
Thanks Jim!
Hello Jari!
Do you mean the dirt at the waterline? Like this:
This will follow after lining the shadows. The shadows define the rest of the general coloration, which will make it easier for me to judge by eye how intense I want the dirty lines to be. I plan to paint the dirt by hand. It will be time-consuming, but it will give me the most control.
After the dirty lines are in place, I can paint the remainder of weathering effects, as these will sometimes butt up against these lines.
How's your POW coming along?
Cheers,
Marijn