Sorry, but I think I was not so clear on my question/doubt!
That picture that shows the Bismarck without the lateral paint schema proves that that part was painted. My doubt is if they had enough time to paint all ship.
I saw on the internet several pictures (model kits) and in books too where the dark grey camouflage in Aft is represented. In the picture I posted, that part appears so dark that is impossible (to me) to say if they painted this part too or not.
This is my real doubt!
I�m talking about the part marked in red below:
kabelodeovo wrote:Olaf,
I saw on the internet several pictures (model kits) and in books too where the dark grey camouflage in Aft is represented. In the picture I posted, that part appears so dark that is impossible (to me) to say if they painted this part too or not.
This is my real doubt!
Charlestonguy wrote:It may help solve your problems.
And open several new ones ... as always ...
To cut a long story short, they did not paint the whole ship, just the stripes etc. Everything between them was already grey.
It is not completely wrong to paint half-way de-camouflaged Bismarck model. Photos exist somewhere on the internet showing the ship lying in the fjord, with painted out stripes but still with the dark bow and stern.
About white stripes remaining on the superstructure, see the text to the Beisheim model. I think this is one kind of mis-information everybody will laugh about when really comparing wreck photos with photos of the camouflaged ship.
Olaf Held wrote:
About white stripes remaining on the superstructure, see the text to the Beisheim model. I think this is one kind of mis-information everybody will laugh about when really comparing wreck photos with photos of the camouflaged ship. Olaf!
Agree
"Only two sailors, in my experience, never ran aground. One never left
port and the other was an atrocious liar."
-Don Bamford
Does somebody have pictures showing the portside wave camouflage?
On starboard side I found this one, and if compared with the John�s schema, the schema is wrong (I�m talking about the portholes position).
I promise that I will not ask more about camouflage!
If you go back to John's site, there is a photo of the ship in Gotenhafen showing the false bow wave on the port side. It's in the 1941 section of the paint schemes.
Thanks for the perfect example that we should rely on photos, not illustrations ...
not only the position of the wave is wrong compared to the hull portholes, but also the wave form itself was not correct on that drawing, the top part is not so rounded, but it does have a kind of flat portion too.
I realized that time ago when making my Bismarck model of Tamiya 1/350 that now is on the Tirpitz museum in KaaFjord.
I am looking for a build thread for the 1/700 Dragon Bismarck Prem. I have tried the search but cant find a build thread so I dont know if I am missing it or nobody has done one. I have this kit and would like to start on it soon so I was hoping to get some insight to whats in store. Thanks for any help.
I am sure many of you know about the Tirpitz aerial photo taken by a RAF Photo Reconneissance Unit Mosquito on July 12th, 1944 in Kaafjord showing a dazzle camouflage on the main deck.
The photo is the famous Imperial War Museum - C 4535 printed on many books and you can see it here in :
Not that I recall ever having seen a photo where they did this (apart from (I think) HP, where they tried to create a visual 'step-down' of the deck level).
Ed Keegan wrote:The HO Scale 1X3's for the wood deck, cut to 20mm (should be 10mm for scale lengths, but I wasn't going to lay that many peices!!!). I used the Chopper to make the lengths, then touched one side to a puddle of CA, then scraped the CA across the stick by sliding the stick across the wax paper where the puddle was, then place on deck quickly (don't have too much time):
What is the Item number and the whole size of the planking
I think this is as hard to answer as the question regarding the colour of teak decks.
If I recall correctly, the propellers were made of manganese bronze. If you perform an image search, you should get an idea about the look of it. To my eyes, it looks similar to brass, but somehow less intense and less shiny. All the rest, scale-effect, worn or not, is up to you ...
All ships propellers are made from copper alloys to resist the effect f seawater corrosion. Most of these alloys fall into the brass category. So it is safe to assume that the propeller on Bismarck would have been a brass color. However you have to take into account the condition of the ship you are modeling. If you are modeling the ship while in drydock, then the blade would be bright and shiny because they usually clean the blade while in drydock. If you are modeling a ship that has been in the water for the last few months, then it would be a muddy brown because it tarnishes the blade after a while. Look here for some good ideas: http://www.google.com/images?q=ship+pro ... 80&bih=713.
I am sure many of you know about the Tirpitz aerial photo taken by a RAF Photo Reconneissance Unit Mosquito on July 12th, 1944 in Kaafjord showing a dazzle camouflage on the main deck.
The photo is the famous Imperial War Museum - C 4535 printed on many books and you can see it here in :
