To HMS Victory and beyond
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- Channell
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Still can't believe you've built an entire little world down there that is just gonna get sealed up until nanotechnology catches up with us. It's too awesome for words!

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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
I agree. That' some truly amazing work.
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It just keeps getting better and better! Really the one word that keeps popping in my head is WOW!
Enlisted men are stupid, but very cunning and deceitful and bear considerable watching." - Marine Corps Officers Manual, 1894
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- LE BOSCO
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Master Dan,just sublim!!
cheers
Nicolas
cheers
Nicolas
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
This is such exquisite work ..
(it's hard to not praise!) truly amazing
Jose
Jose
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Never found the time to introduce somebody else quite interesting:
Reverend Alexander Scott

Born in 1768 as son of a lieutenant in the navy. In 1793 he assigned as chaplain to HMS Berwick an. He was fluent in French, Spanish and Italian.
In the Mediterranean he met the captain of HMS Agamemnon, a certain Nelson, but refused to change to this ship, as he wanted to stay faithful to his own master and crew. Later he served abord HMS St. George and HMS Britannia under Sir Hyde Parker. 1801 was on the HMS London at the Battle of Copenhagen where he helped to draw up the treaties and helped Nelson as an interpreter. Afterwards being asked again to join Nelson, he refused a second time for the same reasons as before.
Then he served in the West-Indies on HMS Topaz as foreign secretary. Admiral Duckworth used Scott's linguistic abilities to help in translating documents and to spy and eavesdrop whilst visiting foreign ports. On one occasion he brought Scott to dine with him and the French general Charles Leclerc, in order to try to ascertain the French intentions towards the Caribbean.
1803 he had a shattering experience: Topaz was struck by a lightning that passed though his cabin and igniting some powder cartridges stored above him. This did cost him some teeth, injured his jaw and affected his hearing and eyesight. He recovered but still suffered some after shocks.
Nelson used the occasion of recovery to try a third time and was finally successful. From 1804 on, he served as foreign secretary aboard HMS Victory. There he spent plenty of time with Nelson reading newspapers and letters captured from foreign prizes to Nelson.
Also aboard the Victory was another man named Scott, this was John Scott, Nelson's personal secretary. Nelson solved the problem by terming Alexander Scott, now installed as his chaplain, as 'Doctor Scott'. Scott was not actually a Doctor at this point.
The thing he did not know yet at the time of the small gun room scene is, that he was to attend the dying Nelson, most of the time rubbing his chest to relieve his pain even after Nelson was already declared dead. He also stayed with Nelson on the way back and throughout the funeral.
Afterwards he lead a quiet life, married 1807 a much yonger woman, had to daughters and a son that died short after birth and also lost his wife because of the birth. He died 1840 at the age of 72.
His daughter Margaret Gatty became a best selling author, also telling his story.
So far I know two portraits of him:
One on William Devis� �Death of Nelson�, him at the center, rubbing Nelsons chest. Apparently based on a real life portrait Devis did himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_ ... nDevis.jpg


The other he is shown in his late life � possibly painted posthumously � in the background the lightning strike on HMS Topaz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_ ... _Scott.jpg

Cheers and a happy new year, Daniel
Reverend Alexander Scott

Born in 1768 as son of a lieutenant in the navy. In 1793 he assigned as chaplain to HMS Berwick an. He was fluent in French, Spanish and Italian.
In the Mediterranean he met the captain of HMS Agamemnon, a certain Nelson, but refused to change to this ship, as he wanted to stay faithful to his own master and crew. Later he served abord HMS St. George and HMS Britannia under Sir Hyde Parker. 1801 was on the HMS London at the Battle of Copenhagen where he helped to draw up the treaties and helped Nelson as an interpreter. Afterwards being asked again to join Nelson, he refused a second time for the same reasons as before.
Then he served in the West-Indies on HMS Topaz as foreign secretary. Admiral Duckworth used Scott's linguistic abilities to help in translating documents and to spy and eavesdrop whilst visiting foreign ports. On one occasion he brought Scott to dine with him and the French general Charles Leclerc, in order to try to ascertain the French intentions towards the Caribbean.
1803 he had a shattering experience: Topaz was struck by a lightning that passed though his cabin and igniting some powder cartridges stored above him. This did cost him some teeth, injured his jaw and affected his hearing and eyesight. He recovered but still suffered some after shocks.
Nelson used the occasion of recovery to try a third time and was finally successful. From 1804 on, he served as foreign secretary aboard HMS Victory. There he spent plenty of time with Nelson reading newspapers and letters captured from foreign prizes to Nelson.
Also aboard the Victory was another man named Scott, this was John Scott, Nelson's personal secretary. Nelson solved the problem by terming Alexander Scott, now installed as his chaplain, as 'Doctor Scott'. Scott was not actually a Doctor at this point.
The thing he did not know yet at the time of the small gun room scene is, that he was to attend the dying Nelson, most of the time rubbing his chest to relieve his pain even after Nelson was already declared dead. He also stayed with Nelson on the way back and throughout the funeral.
Afterwards he lead a quiet life, married 1807 a much yonger woman, had to daughters and a son that died short after birth and also lost his wife because of the birth. He died 1840 at the age of 72.
His daughter Margaret Gatty became a best selling author, also telling his story.
So far I know two portraits of him:
One on William Devis� �Death of Nelson�, him at the center, rubbing Nelsons chest. Apparently based on a real life portrait Devis did himself.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Death_ ... nDevis.jpg


The other he is shown in his late life � possibly painted posthumously � in the background the lightning strike on HMS Topaz
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_ ... _Scott.jpg

Cheers and a happy new year, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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- dafi
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Hourrrrrrrrrrrraaaaaaaaayyyyy,
I got my avatar, my little ship yard worker.
Not feeling naked any more
Thank you Mr. Bean/Mick!
XXXDAn
I got my avatar, my little ship yard worker.
Not feeling naked any more
Thank you Mr. Bean/Mick!
XXXDAn
To Victory and beyond ...
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Beautiful work and great story!
Have fun, Monkey around. TM
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- dafi
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*blow*...
... waving the dust away ...
... oh really, there is a building report appearing :-0
Lots of work means loads of pennies for the building
The only flaw is that there is little time for the builds, the only time for forums is when hanging in a boring telefone call or while the computer is rendering or saving. But it looks like times are coming back *joy*
And as everybody sayz to start with something small ...

Cheers, Daniel
... waving the dust away ...
... oh really, there is a building report appearing :-0
Lots of work means loads of pennies for the building
The only flaw is that there is little time for the builds, the only time for forums is when hanging in a boring telefone call or while the computer is rendering or saving. But it looks like times are coming back *joy*
And as everybody sayz to start with something small ...

Cheers, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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- Bill Code
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Daniel are you still selling your PE sets for Victory ?? Cheers BC
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Hello Bill,
yes I do
All parts on stock, ready to serve.
http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html
Cheers, Daniel
yes I do
All parts on stock, ready to serve.
http://www.dafinismus.de/plates_en.html
Cheers, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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Dafi was a taylor ...
... he shortened my coat and scarved my shirt ...

... he put my head right back in place, ...
... and stuck paper tails on my bum.

...hihihihihihihihihi...
XXXDAn
... he shortened my coat and scarved my shirt ...

... he put my head right back in place, ...
... and stuck paper tails on my bum.

...hihihihihihihihihi...
XXXDAn
To Victory and beyond ...
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Are you a ship modeller or a figure modeller Daniel?
Excellent!
Cheers,
Marijn
Excellent!
Cheers,
Marijn
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... good old times ...
... you can leave your head on ...

... and who discovers the parts from entry of 09.03.?

Cheers, Daniel
... you can leave your head on ...

... and who discovers the parts from entry of 09.03.?

Cheers, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
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...hihihihihihihihi...
... my next modeling tool ...

...hihihihihihihihi...
XXXDAn
... my next modeling tool ...

...hihihihihihihihi...
XXXDAn
To Victory and beyond ...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
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- dafi
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Hyho, small dafi was aloud to tinker some more bits ...
... first the freshly pressed ones ...


... by the way that is the way they looked in their former lifes

And as dafi likes to do messes ...

... but there is nothing better ...

... than a fresh caulked deck!
XXXDAn
... first the freshly pressed ones ...


... by the way that is the way they looked in their former lifes

And as dafi likes to do messes ...

... but there is nothing better ...

... than a fresh caulked deck!
XXXDAn
To Victory and beyond ...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
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Looking back in history, February 2010
"... and the carronades with wheels and elevation screw."


For those days a vast improvement towards oob. But since then things went a bit nuts, so time to look for Carronade 2.0.
The basic form fits so far quite well, fitted two more reinforcement rings on the original places, made from my tinnest Evergreen strips, but still sanded thinner and rounded with abrasive sponges. Also the iron sight was replaced and a base for the gun lock created. The bed of the carriage got the slot for the traveling part. The old coin and bearing were removed.

For one of the guns a new sliding part was tinkered ...

... and I enjoyed the detail of putting in the base plate for the elevation screw flush with the surface.

The rolls fitted for the carriage are 1,5 mm poly and comply to my understanding of a decent size of parts: fits into the "C" of a Cent

Also the gunlocks do justice to this specification ...

... the flaps were bent ...

... and with the monograms we approach version 2.01.

Cheers, Daniel
"... and the carronades with wheels and elevation screw."


For those days a vast improvement towards oob. But since then things went a bit nuts, so time to look for Carronade 2.0.
The basic form fits so far quite well, fitted two more reinforcement rings on the original places, made from my tinnest Evergreen strips, but still sanded thinner and rounded with abrasive sponges. Also the iron sight was replaced and a base for the gun lock created. The bed of the carriage got the slot for the traveling part. The old coin and bearing were removed.

For one of the guns a new sliding part was tinkered ...

... and I enjoyed the detail of putting in the base plate for the elevation screw flush with the surface.

The rolls fitted for the carriage are 1,5 mm poly and comply to my understanding of a decent size of parts: fits into the "C" of a Cent

Also the gunlocks do justice to this specification ...

... the flaps were bent ...

... and with the monograms we approach version 2.01.

Cheers, Daniel
To Victory and beyond ...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
- K494
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
Spectacular modelling,Daniel.
Scott
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Thank you Scott!
On the last picture one can see something, that I was bothering about since some time.
The monogram appears sitting quite thickly on the barrel. I already used the thinnest material available from my supplier, 0,2 mm equals 2 cm in original. The original monogram is about 5 to 10 mm mm but has much more washed outlines.
Time to tinker a bit and to see what still is possible
Two versions were spooking around my wired minds for some time - lets go for the phantoms
Version 1 sinking the monograms with a soldering iron.

Worked surprisingly well, it was quite easy to sink it evenly ...
... until I saw the bulges of diplaced material all around. Difficult to take out, ok forget it.
Version 2 were thin castings, like those I do successfully for the coat of arms of the entry port.
Took two monograms and hammered them into the poly ...

... casted twice ...

... but missing a good form success was not coming. Some carvings of the form did not help.

Then came version 3, gluing the monograms and filing the edges off.
Looked great without color but with color splashed over ...

... merda ...
...
Ok trial number 4:
Took a monogram and sank it by half into a poly ...

... broke it out ...

... and took the poly as holder to file down the backsides of the monograms down to half ...
... and bingo
Some other side theaters of war ...
... rolled the wire for the thread rod with the filr to give it some structure ...

... and carved the bearings of the trunnion out of Evergreen.

On the last picture one can see that the sliding part has to slide over the mounts of the wheels, so it means, they have to be flush in the surface.
So marked the position on the circle ...
... and used a dummy for testing. First drilled a basic hole ...

... ground a old scalpel into shape ...

... and formed the drilled hole.

And the trials shows that it fits

So assembled the carriage and barrel, splashed some paint onto it, fitted the appropriate eyebolts and it looks ok
Old and new side by side ...

... old - once state of the art - ...

... and a bit pimped ...

... and it seems quite ok
XXXDAn
On the last picture one can see something, that I was bothering about since some time.
The monogram appears sitting quite thickly on the barrel. I already used the thinnest material available from my supplier, 0,2 mm equals 2 cm in original. The original monogram is about 5 to 10 mm mm but has much more washed outlines.
Time to tinker a bit and to see what still is possible
Two versions were spooking around my wired minds for some time - lets go for the phantoms
Version 1 sinking the monograms with a soldering iron.

Worked surprisingly well, it was quite easy to sink it evenly ...
... until I saw the bulges of diplaced material all around. Difficult to take out, ok forget it.
Version 2 were thin castings, like those I do successfully for the coat of arms of the entry port.
Took two monograms and hammered them into the poly ...

... casted twice ...

... but missing a good form success was not coming. Some carvings of the form did not help.

Then came version 3, gluing the monograms and filing the edges off.
Looked great without color but with color splashed over ...

... merda ...
...
Ok trial number 4:
Took a monogram and sank it by half into a poly ...

... broke it out ...

... and took the poly as holder to file down the backsides of the monograms down to half ...
... and bingo
Some other side theaters of war ...
... rolled the wire for the thread rod with the filr to give it some structure ...

... and carved the bearings of the trunnion out of Evergreen.

On the last picture one can see that the sliding part has to slide over the mounts of the wheels, so it means, they have to be flush in the surface.
So marked the position on the circle ...
... and used a dummy for testing. First drilled a basic hole ...

... ground a old scalpel into shape ...

... and formed the drilled hole.

And the trials shows that it fits

So assembled the carriage and barrel, splashed some paint onto it, fitted the appropriate eyebolts and it looks ok
Old and new side by side ...

... old - once state of the art - ...

... and a bit pimped ...

... and it seems quite ok
XXXDAn
To Victory and beyond ...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=99050&start=60
See also our german forum for the age of Sail and History:
http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com
- LE BOSCO
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Re: To HMS Victory and beyond
hello Dan
I love the almost scientific approach you have of model making
it's really great
I like always your work
cheers
nicolas
I love the almost scientific approach you have of model making
it's really great
cheers
nicolas