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[taskforce48]

And just in case the new Very Fire one doesn�t fulfill your needs�

Border Models newly announced first 1/350 kit

Matt

[Timmy C]

Squinting at the fine print at the bottom of the Border boxart, looks like it'll be a traditional two-piece hull thanks to four-sided slide moulds. Also includes metal barrels and 3D-printed parts.

[Dan K]

Sigh. What could it possibly bring to the table that VeryFire and Tamiya haven't?

[drdoom1337]

500 different Yamato models, 500 different Iowa models and we can't get a single 1943-45 New Jersey. The VeryFire kit of New Jersey represents the ship after her mid 1945 refit, requiring a fairly extensive amount of modification to bring her back to her wartime fit (by the time she left Puget Sound, the war was all but over).

[Roberto]

Or a 1/350 late war Colorado with optional parts for a Maryland.
Or a 1/350 late war Tennessee with optional parts for a California or West Virginia.

Available in 3D print by SSModel or GAGA.

[Mr. Church]

Sigh. What could it possibly bring to the table that VeryFire and Tamiya haven't?

Yes it is baffling. Presumably they just want to cash in on the popularity? Such a pity when so many other famous Battleships remain unmodelled.

If they must do another Yamato could they not at least do the early version from 1941-43 with the 'wing' 6 inch turrets?

That would surely sell and would be significantly different to the 1945 version. The Tamiya new tool kit seems to have provision for this. Hopefully they actually release an early version at some point. An early version Musashi would nicely compliment Yamato too, as Tamiya have already done in 1/700 scale. Why not in 1/350 also?

[ModelMonkey]

Younger model companies often begin with subjects that are known to sell well, even if already covered by other model companies, in order to build revenue and test the market. If sales prove strong, the company may be able to expand into other subjects not yet modeled.

Border Model, a newish Chinese company, is known for armor and aircraft kits, not ships. It is not surprising that Border would choose a popular Asian warship to test the model ship market waters, and choose a subject not offered by main competitor Trumpeter in that scale.

[Dan K]

Understood about picking a familiar name to test the waters. Still, IMHO, a first to market 1/350 CV Fujian would seem like a good bet to me, for them.

Agreed that an as-built Yamato or Musashi would add something new to the market.

[carrierdeck]

Hello carrier ship fans.

There IS a 1/700 Yamato 41-43 with the ''wing'' 6 inch turrets.
That one is from TAKARA , now defunct.
Takara made several 1/700 Yamato's and Mushasi around 2004.

I had about 2008 purchased one Yamato in 44 execution , the very specialty of these models are that they are divided
in SEVEN parts which can be displayed separate ore connected with pins to make a completship.
All the parts are already in color and do have complete interior in the hull , separate gun turrets with the batailrbette you
can tale out of the hull and even divide it into more parts so you can see the interior of the barbette.
Due to scale off course not so very well detailed. The superstucture i.e. the bridge you can take a half from it , just like the cimney system.
The hangar for the planes you can take the after deck loose , the planes are very well done. You had however still to glue quite a lot of small
parts on the kit, so you were still busy for a day.
Keep in mind, all parts are already colored. I paid then about 50 us dollars including shipping.
You can find these on Ebay and the normal internet. But prices are really excessive today.

About 2016 in Belgium at a modelshow I found a Takarabox with 2 Yamato/Mushasi kits. One was the Mushasi and the other was:
the Yamato in 41-43 time schedule. So with the triple 6 inch guns on the sides ! The 2 kit box was about 90 US dollars.

Then 2 yaers ago ( just before the customs started charging every parcel ) a seller in Japan where I had bought more 1/700 stuff
maild me to say that he was putting a 1/700 Yamato type 150 ( the proposed 20 inch gun Yamato ) on Ebay , so I would be the first
to get a chance to buy it. This kit was about 100 US dollar incl. shipping.
So I have now all types of the Yamato series complete.
I do have also a Yahagi light cruiser in 3 parts with complete interior and a modern japanase Aegis class cruiser also 3 parts with complete
interior, the guns and rocket bays are also to show as loose parts and the interior of the superstructure is also very detaild.

So there is indeed a Yamato kit with the side 6 inch turrets, very sleek battleship in this execution
greetings Chris

[Joe Ellias]

Takom just announced the future release of Russian missile corvettes Type 20380 early and late versions.

[Timmy C]

Takom just announced the future release of Russian missile corvettes Type 20380 early and late versions.

Links to CAD images in the first post of this thread!

They've also announced a couple of tugs and sundry small craft, same scale. Also linked in the first post.

[maxim]

New by Vee Hobby in 1/700:

Light cruiser USS Oakland
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305600954211
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305600954193

[MattFlegal]

Huh, Trumpeter is doing an open bridge USS Montana.

[FFG-7]

those look like 5"/38cal guns & mounts not 5"/54cal versions.

[taskforce48]

Huh, Trumpeter is doing an open bridge USS Montana.

Not to take this thread too far off topic, mods feel free to break off into a CASF... Montana was never completed so who is to say what is right and what is wrong, however I feel there are certain standards that are accepted as the ships were to be very real and plans were drafted, that certain design elements should be accepted and represented. The open Bridge does not bother me, Very Fire and Joy Yard both did the forward superstructure and bridge area similarly but yet wrong/different from what the plans show and give them more of a finalized Iowa style enclosed bridge and higher conning tower. If I am remembering correctly, I once read somewhere Louisiana was going to be designated a fleet flagship and would incorporate the higher CT. The Original Montana plans called for a superstructure more similar to the North Carolina class, so points to Trumpeter for getting that closer to the original design. Beyond that, it deviates quite a bit and perhaps this is some early mockup destined to change, but a few things of note-

- Funnels seem too short
- The Taper and overall footprint of the FC Tower just wrong, too narrow and no taper to the aft. This looks more German than USN
- Arguments for modified bridge, sure, there would have been the experience from the Iowa's by the time the first Montana's could have hit the water and changes in place. But the open bridge at expense of 4-40mm quads? Does not seem like a logical change. That row of 20mm's seems off as well. Argument could be made that Trumpeter is trying to offer a "what-if" earlier design, but then why not include the original Boat Deck and not the 40mm towers like what the was done on the Iowa's?
- Aft FC tower just seems wrong in profile and plan
- 5/38's for sure, I have contemplated an as built with 5/38's using an argument that it was decided due to the ongoing war, 5/38 ammo and parts were plentiful and proven and did not introduce another system to support at the front. But again, maybe that is an option to give the modeler?

In the world where World Of Warships is introducing a whole new demographic to ships and clearly the "Paper" ships are very popular, Trumpeter is trying to continue a cash in on by producing these never-weres but yet deviating greatly from the design that we see in WOW. I am a big fan of the Montana class and have several mental designs to show how they may have actually come to be, but I will stick with my Yankee Modeleworks and Very Fire kits as a base and unfortunately pass on this one, just doesn't feel right. You can argue things such as 20 and 40mm placement, small boat placement, but the core design should be there and this was another Trumpeter(does C-Team exist?) attempt to knock something out quick and probably utilize their Iowa sprues.

Just my $0.02 before taxes

Matt

[MorgenergyModels]

Huh, Trumpeter is doing an open bridge USS Montana.

I like it, personally. Makes a change from the usual closed bridge.

It differentiates their kit from the others, which is wise.

[Timmy C]

Triumph previously produced a resin HMS Glorious, though it was riddled with errors: viewtopic.php?f=84&t=352306

No signs that it's from the World of Warships digital models though, since the game doesn't have a Glorious (nor Lion).

[ArizonaBB39]

Huh, Trumpeter is doing an open bridge USS Montana.

Not to take this thread too far off topic, mods feel free to break off into a CASF... Montana was never completed so who is to say what is right and what is wrong, however I feel there are certain standards that are accepted as the ships were to be very real and plans were drafted, that certain design elements should be accepted and represented. The open Bridge does not bother me, Very Fire and Joy Yard both did the forward superstructure and bridge area similarly but yet wrong/different from what the plans show and give them more of a finalized Iowa style enclosed bridge and higher conning tower. If I am remembering correctly, I once read somewhere Louisiana was going to be designated a fleet flagship and would incorporate the higher CT. The Original Montana plans called for a superstructure more similar to the North Carolina class, so points to Trumpeter for getting that closer to the original design. Beyond that, it deviates quite a bit and perhaps this is some early mockup destined to change, but a few things of note-

- Funnels seem too short
- The Taper and overall footprint of the FC Tower just wrong, too narrow and no taper to the aft. This looks more German than USN
- Arguments for modified bridge, sure, there would have been the experience from the Iowa's by the time the first Montana's could have hit the water and changes in place. But the open bridge at expense of 4-40mm quads? Does not seem like a logical change. That row of 20mm's seems off as well. Argument could be made that Trumpeter is trying to offer a "what-if" earlier design, but then why not include the original Boat Deck and not the 40mm towers like what the was done on the Iowa's?
- Aft FC tower just seems wrong in profile and plan
- 5/38's for sure, I have contemplated an as built with 5/38's using an argument that it was decided due to the ongoing war, 5/38 ammo and parts were plentiful and proven and did not introduce another system to support at the front. But again, maybe that is an option to give the modeler?

In the world where World Of Warships is introducing a whole new demographic to ships and clearly the "Paper" ships are very popular, Trumpeter is trying to continue a cash in on by producing these never-weres but yet deviating greatly from the design that we see in WOW. I am a big fan of the Montana class and have several mental designs to show how they may have actually come to be, but I will stick with my Yankee Modeleworks and Very Fire kits as a base and unfortunately pass on this one, just doesn't feel right. You can argue things such as 20 and 40mm placement, small boat placement, but the core design should be there and this was another Trumpeter(does C-Team exist?) attempt to knock something out quick and probably utilize their Iowa sprues.

Just my $0.02 before taxes

Matt

Its possible they based it on the "Scheme-8" battleship study, which closely resembles the picture MattFlegal posted. It looks similar to drawings I made of that scheme as well, which I fitted out based on how the other fast battleships ended up looking; I'm sure Trumpeter is doing the same. I guess you could call this an "as designed" (proposed? imagined?) fit? At any rate it is nice to see Trumpeter seems to be getting better with the details on the smaller AA weapons (although its been a while since I built a later war ship from them)

[pascalemod]

On Facebook, pretty recently, were posted 2 box arts from Flyhawk:

1) A KGV class 1/700 battleship, which I think based on camouflage is Duke of York ca 1943 (FH did announce it like 3-4 years ago, good to see if they are following through)
2) A what looks like German Torpedo Boat of some sort.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/F2SdhKPZy2LFz2oK/

[MorgenergyModels]

On Facebook, pretty recently, were posted 2 box arts from Flyhawk:

1) A KGV class 1/700 battleship, which I think based on camouflage is Duke of York ca 1943 (FH did announce it like 3-4 years ago, good to see if they are following through)
2) A what looks like German Torpedo Boat of some sort.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/share/p/F2SdhKPZy2LFz2oK/

Always nice to see lesser known Kriegsmarine vessels get some recognition; very interesting choice.

Definitely DoY.