Calling all Bismarck and Tirpitz fans

[Olaf Held]

@ Bob ~ I could give you the name of the primer but I have no real clue how it looked like. 1938 colour footage from Hamburg harbour shows Admiral Hipper with beige or light yellow superstructure. This could have been some kind of primer. I think paint was sprayed, at least large surfaces, but I have no idea. I have to look it up but I think they used different primers for different purposes.

@ Dana ~ The dark spots... don't worry about them...

Happy guessing ~ Olaf!

[ZALADIS]

Also might anyone be able to tell me what these three black spots are about three quarters of the way down on the hull? And would they have been on both sides of the ship? They don't seem to appear on the hull until Operation Rhein�bung and remain there up until at least after the Battle of the Denmark Strait if not all the way to the sinking.

Dana

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I asked the same question on the Bismarck forum and it turns out the black marks on the hull are the result of an oil spill during fueling ..

[Repulse1936]

I asked the same question on the Bismarck forum and it turns out the black marks on the hull are the result of an oil spill during fueling ..

The result of the parting of the feeder hose (or its coupling) having broken during fuelling, before the ship steamed for Norway.

[BobaFettSlave_1]

It's very interesting on how it looks like the oil stained the hull paint. Would the crew have attempted to paint over this oil stain? It still looks like its very visible though not quite as well defined in these photos after the Baltic cammo was painted over.

Dana

[Stuart Wilson]

Hi,

I'd like to build the Tirpitz using the Trumpeter kit in 1/700 but I don't fancy tackling that paint scheme very much.

What changes are needed to the kit to make her as she was earlier in the war say Dec 41 - Mar 42. I have a scrap Trumpter Bismarck if I need any parts from this (I know about the mod 37 105mm mounts).

Cheers

Stuart Wilson

[Olaf Held]

Stuart, what year does your Trumpy kit represent? 1943?

The most prominent changes were related to her radar equipment and the number of smaller AA mounts. For the details, munch your way through Click-Clack and its follow-up pages.

Happy modelling ~ Olaf!

[Timmy C]

Not always right to left - here's one that was part of a series of other ships that were lined up on a wall along a hallway in a Technology museum I went to in Istanbul:

[Timmy C]

I change them from time to time

I would generally prefer the starboard side outwards because that's the side with green navigation lights, which provides more visual interest than the red portside lights.

[Timmy C]

I choose the green to contrast with the huge chunk of red that is the lower hull.

[kabelodeovo]

Catapult: All pictures I saw there is no stairs on the catapult, but all PE set have stairs on it. See below (picture by Nelson Ott):



Can somebody give me more information regarding this stairs?

Dank!

[Olaf Held]

These are not stairs but walkways. There is still a discussion going on whether these were angled as on your photo, or not.

I think we will have to dig deep to find a photo that could answer this question.


Happy digging ~ Olaf!

[Charlestonguy]

New 1/700 Dragon kit
Here are a few observations I have.
1. Sprue B Part 9-10 nice detail only objection is they split the bulkhead behind the forward gun mounts just like all the other kits. A bad area to clean up if parts do not fit just right, but in this scale may not be a problem.
2. Part 1 funnel cap, very nice out of box.
3. Part 11 catapults, not sure why they did not go PE for this part. Nice deck detail

Blast Bags!!!! love them wish more kits had them.

Sprue F
1. Part 1 nice deck detail only problem is the stair way is for Tirpitz, still have question on deck surface aft of the open bridge. I maybe wrong here but feel it was a steel deck and not planked, others may disagree.
2. Part 8-9 Funnel does not have the flare on the bottom and hangers do not represent it as well.
Those a just a few things I saw overall I think it is a nice kit and well worth the money. I had not intended to buy another Bismarck but this may have changed my mind.
Would like to hear from others here on what they see.
Thanks

[Charlestonguy]

YouTube film of the battle between Bismarck and Hood. Some great footage enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU76vVM6 ... re=related

[kabelodeovo]

Tks Olaf!
I went as deep as I could, but nothing! So I decided to assembly my catapult without walkways.
Another question: The Bismarck had two catapults. To launch one Arado all cover on both catapult should be opened, or only the cover on the catapult that was in use?
I don�t know if I was clear enough, but the picture blow maybe shows my doubt.



BR

[Olaf Held]

I'm sorry, I don't know. I may have read something about it somewhere, but I honestly can't remember. In my personal opinion it looks better to have the other half covered in order to hide that the PE part appears as if it was 'one' catapult.

With regard to the walkways (angled or not), I can only say what Gally shows on his plans ==> angled. This is because of the need to lead the walkway from the forward edge of the superstructure towards the catapult. It could be that they changed it later on but I think this would have been too much hazzle to change that minor detail as I think something must have been done to the shape of the superstructure as well - but this is just an assumption, nothing proven.

Happy modelling ~ Olaf!

[BobaFettSlave_1]

Might anyone have a cross section view of the Bismarck? I'm going to be machining some new Barbette's for a wreck model I am working on and need a good example the approximate distances between the different levels in the barbette shafts.

[peppe]

from a polish publication EOW19 AJ press
ciao peppe

[BobaFettSlave_1]

from a polish publication EOW19 AJ press
ciao peppe

Thank you very much sir! Were the Barbette's B and C the same depth/length and just higher up on the superstructure


Dana

[peppe]

the arrangement is a little different, the magazines and work chambers are at the same level and in B and C barbettes it is a intermediate chamber more as you can see in the drawing from aos bismarck
ciao peppe

[BobaFettSlave_1]

Thanks again peppe. Those pictures are immensely helpful. Pm coming your way.