Calling all Russian submarine fans
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- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
I don't use Humbrol, so can't give any recommendations there. For gloss coat, I use Future Floor Finish - it's sold under a variety of labels and brands around the world, but this site gives you some idea: http://www.swannysmodels.com/TheCompleteFuture.html
For flat coats, I've been using artists' matte varnish lately. I use an acrylic one by Liquitex - it's rather thick, but self-levels.
These products tend to be cheaper and just as (if not more) effective than the hobby-specific products.
The only decal softening agent I've used is MicroScale's Micro Sol, which works as long as your decals are not covered by any coating. I don't know if that's what Humbrol's decalfix is, though.
For flat coats, I've been using artists' matte varnish lately. I use an acrylic one by Liquitex - it's rather thick, but self-levels.
These products tend to be cheaper and just as (if not more) effective than the hobby-specific products.
The only decal softening agent I've used is MicroScale's Micro Sol, which works as long as your decals are not covered by any coating. I don't know if that's what Humbrol's decalfix is, though.
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Intreno
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Really thanks Timmt. One more thing: do you apply matt coat with airbrush to the whole submarine or by paintbrush just in the area of decals on and around) ? And happy Easter to everybody.
- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
In theory, you should have applied the gloss coat to the entire ship, and so you should have to apply the matte coat to the entire ship as well. Otherwise, you might get some inconsistency in the coating finish. However, I've had some success with dipping the decal into the gloss coat and applying it that way without putting gloss on the whole ship, and then brushing on matte coat only on the shiny decal. Haven't really done it enough to say whether it'll always work, though.
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- krgf15
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Patman, those drydock chocks are an outstanding idea!!!
- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Any word on the hobbyboss 1/350 Golf class or anything new?
- Patman
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Thanks for the news, I didn�t know that.redoctober27 wrote:Any word on the hobbyboss 1/350 Golf class or anything new?
Looking for it on the www, Hannants says they have one in stock, but with a damaged box. No pictures shown.
Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Yeah i didnt see anything on hobbyboss's web page about any thing new :/. We need some new Subs!!!
- Patman
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
We�ll hope this time HB won�t dissapoint us with another Akula fiasco.
A friend of mine examined the pictures and said it resembles one of the early ?yphoon class SSBNs.
Let�s see what out forum experts say.


A friend of mine examined the pictures and said it resembles one of the early ?yphoon class SSBNs.
Let�s see what out forum experts say.


Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
- redoctober27
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Woot woot!!!! Im not that good at picking out errors on russian subs ( well small errors) can you see anything wrong? I know there oscar class was good and heard about the problems on the Akulas :/ Do you know of anything abouts the rumored Golf class ship from hobby boss? Im still hoping for a Delta IV !! They get no love
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Vepr157
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
It's hard to tell from those photos, but I'd say the accuracy is consistent with HB's other submarines model, which is to say that the general shape is right, but many of the details are wrong. The biggest error I can see is the flat portion of the deck around the bulge of the sail pressure hull. It's too far forward. Also, I don't think the Typhoons have substantial keels like the one on the bottom of the model. Well, at least it's better than the Dragon Typhoon.
Under Construction:
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
- Patman
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Done:
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
Victor III 1/350
In the yard:
USS Gudgeon 1/350
Alfa 1/350
Queue:
Guppy II 1/350
Leonardo Da Vinci 1/350
Type 212 1/350
ARA Santiago del Estero 1/144
USS Nautilus 1/350
ARA San Juan 1/350
ARA Chiriguano 1/350
Severodvinsk 1/350
- Timmy C
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
I noted this elsewhere: the new HB kit is lacking the fairing that blends the leading edges of the sternplanes with the main hull.
You can read more here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156357
You can read more here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=156357
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Vepr157
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Patman,
Those drawings are ok, but not great. These are the best ones I've found:
http://i.imgur.com/HMeOuAn.jpg
Timmy,
I don't think the lack of towed sonar array fairings is that big of a deal. Firstly, I don't think that the early Typhoons had them in the first place. The later ones definitely do, and they were probably retrofitted to the early units at some time. Secondly, I don't think it would be all that difficult to scratch-build the fairing. It looks like all you would need is some sheet styrene and a fair bit of putty. The position of the widened portion of the flat deck around the sail is a real problem though.
Jacob
Those drawings are ok, but not great. These are the best ones I've found:
http://i.imgur.com/HMeOuAn.jpg
Timmy,
I don't think the lack of towed sonar array fairings is that big of a deal. Firstly, I don't think that the early Typhoons had them in the first place. The later ones definitely do, and they were probably retrofitted to the early units at some time. Secondly, I don't think it would be all that difficult to scratch-build the fairing. It looks like all you would need is some sheet styrene and a fair bit of putty. The position of the widened portion of the flat deck around the sail is a real problem though.
Jacob
Under Construction:
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
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_viper_
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Amen to that! And to the kit...Vepr157 wrote:The position of the widened portion of the flat deck around the sail is a real problem though
And you also mentioned that strange plug on the bottom and finally I will add the anhecoic tiling...
Again, as said elsewhere, what a disappointment!
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Tom Dougherty
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Uuuuhh, guys, in terms of fundamental errors in the kit, I think you missed a big one. The Akula (Typhoon) carried 20 � RSM-52 SLBMs in 20 missile tubes. Count the number of missile tubes on the photo of the kit above....
And what about the Golf sub, any word?
And what about the Golf sub, any word?
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"Project Azorian: The CIA and the Raising of the K-129" Book
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- Tim Jacobs
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Wow, how did I miss that. Unless there are significant corrections to this kit, I can't see wasting time on it.Tom Dougherty wrote:Uuuuhh, guys, in terms of fundamental errors in the kit, I think you missed a big one. The Akula (Typhoon) carried 20 � RSM-52 SLBMs in 20 missile tubes. Count the number of missile tubes on the photo of the kit above....
I built an Alanger Typhoon a few years ago; a bit short on details, but at least they got the hull shape right (yes, I know the length is off) and the right number of missile tubes!
I have the Typhoon displayed on the overhead bins in my cubicle at work. The people who were START Treaty inspectors like it (Note: they are missile & warhead counters, not rivet counters).
On the workbench:
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
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_viper_
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Wow!
Thanks Tom!
Indeed I was so bothered by the big plug on the bottom, the engraved anhecoic tiling and the lip in front of the sail that I did not even look at it!

Thanks Tom!
Indeed I was so bothered by the big plug on the bottom, the engraved anhecoic tiling and the lip in front of the sail that I did not even look at it!
Truly great madness cannot be achieved without significant intelligence
- Tim Jacobs
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
17 Jun 2014 Severodvinsk (Project 885 Yasen-class) officially adopted in the Russian Navy.
On the workbench:
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
I Love Kit 1/72 OSA-I
Recently completed:
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J (early)
Trumpeter 1/35 SA-8 Gecko
Trumpeter 1/350 Moskva (Slava-class)
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Vepr157
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
In regard to Severodvinsk, here are some photos of the event.
http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/302435.html
http://kuleshovoleg.livejournal.com/302435.html
Under Construction:
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
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Vepr157
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Re: Calling all Russian submarine fans
Does anyone have interior plans for the Project 945 Sierra boats? I'm writing an article for the Naval Institute Proceedings about the pod on Soviet SSNs, and I have plans for the Victor III and Akula, but none for the Sierra. Thanks!
Jacob
Jacob
Under Construction:
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC
1/350 Typhoon
1/350 Skate
1/350 USS Nautilus
1/350 Tang
1/350 November
1/350 Hotel II
1/350 Alfa
1/350 George Washington
1/72 Type VIIC