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Let me put together all the guesses I received for its purpose:

- for calling the big kraken to get more bamboo skewers
- juice maker, as the brits were called Limeys
- winemaker for the captain�s port
- jack for excanging the steeringwheel
- torture: stretching bed or thumbscrew
- olive press
- garbich press
- nutcracker king-size for coconuts
- tool to inflate the ship in harbour to save tax
- archimedes screw for the bilge
- ship biscuit juicer to liquefy maggots
- tool to iron captain�s uniform
- dvice for fine adjustment of the water line
- sealing leakages / repairing beams

The last point I would have said yes, that too for sure

And here is the sweet bit in it�s natural habitat:





It is in deed the jack to lift the deck beams in order to remove and put back the stanchions that are in the way of the capstans bars. Blaise Olivier describes them well with the dry comment, that the french system with iron bars on hinges is far more practical ...

All the best, Daniel

amazing... and very very comitted to the cause !!!!



JIm Baumann

Very good Daniel .
The man with the hammer, Is that for releaseing a block or maybe mending something

What ever, Its a fab build and very Interesting to say the least.

Shaving horses, what a fun

Seen the shaving horse some years ago on the V. in P., the nice officer that guided me, explained how it works. Long time gone since and many details forgotten, it was a nice hunt to find out the details again.

Serving as a workbench for holding the object to work on, it consists of a board with feet and a small bench on top to hold the work piece (the darker bit on top) ...



... and a pivoting frame that holds down the work piece by the push of the legs.



For working the drawknife is pulled towards the body of the craftsman.



Skilled craftsman could easily produce round battens on it without having to use a lath. And again, a small bit of ancient craftsmanship is understood
Wikipedia sayz:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaving_horse

... and the noble officer on the original horse as shown on the Vic.




I used the chance to enhale a little bit of life into my mallet-man. And after some moments with only me, him and the brush I was shure: His name only can be Thor



Lieber Gru�, Daniel

PS: Just to make sure - Thor has nothing to do with shaving horses, he just did fine on the pictures ...

... and he still is missing his duty

And off we go again. Took out the capstans and replaced them slightly to give better use of the lenghts of the bars.





Like this they can be 0,5 meters longer, but the main capstan in front of the mizzen mast is limited by the rigging of the rudder, resulting in quite short bars.



And with two anchor cables fitted it looks rather clean and neat ...



... several stoppers still missing ...



... and the manger.



Cheers, Daniel

hello Daniel

Always a great pleasure to see your progress this is realy superb
congrats
friendship
Nicolas

Thank you Bosco

And what does one do if one has almost a cable length of anchor rope and some movable manger boards ? Of course one tries out things

And what? The last pictures show the anchor rope tight and well clear the manger boards. Usually with the guns run out, everything looks neat, tidy and spacious. With the guns lashed it becomes already more tight.

But what with the cables prepared for throwing the anchor? Hihihihihihihi...

So here we go ...



... the tensioned anchor cables clear above the manger boards. But some time ago, I already did put up some heretical questions:

- the boards of the manger are not constructed in a way that a heavy anchor cable can rub over them.
- several sources claim the manger�s boards to be removable for what purpose?
- for what purpose were they taken out?
- why are they usually shown as a permanent fix?

While preparing came out Goodwins new book Victorys "Owners� Workshop Manual" that gives a nice describtion on how to prepare to throw an anchor

- Clear the deck. But I kept the guns lashed (Lets suppose we have a heavy sea and do not want to unleash them).
- The sides of the manger were taken out! HA!!! That is why I made them removable, I knew it!!!
- The starboard side anchor cable is stored on the port side because of handling. So bring it up the gundeck and flake it out in long loops along the deck, in a way that it can�t get jammed. HA!!! That is why I made my cable that long!!!
- When the required length is laid out, fix the rope around the bitts and add some stoppers in front and back of the bitts (missing in the pictures still)
- If not done yet take a smaller messenger cable and get the cable through the hawser holes to to be fixed on the anchor.

Then comes a series of sailing manouvers . Then the anchor is let go and the rope can run out the hawser holes and uncoil easily throughout the deck without rubbing against any manger boards. Like this it makes finally sense to me
Finetuning still welcome!

And this is how it looks like: Starboard manger boards taken out ...



... uand the long hanks down the deck. This is almost a cable length.



And some more pics for pleasure and fun.











And suddenly, it doesn�t look that spacious and clear any more

As a guide the length of the cable should be 3 times the depth of water if I understood right. The free end of this cable shown here on deck is 150 meters, so the water shoud be 40 to 50 meters deep. The Cable length of about 183 meters came out of the length of the old ropewalks. If longer cables were needed for deeper water, two cables had to be spliced together. Than we would have had about 9 hanks instead of the five here shown on the pictures. I think this should be still possible space wise.

Sincerily, Daniel

A work of art.

Thank you James

As usual, the last details always need most attention and especially work ...



Whaddat? A dogstopper. Where from? From deep inside, there where fixing bits on bitts is the most fun, located at number 2.



And it is rather clear immediately. As the turns around the bitts won�t give enough grip for the anchor cable, the cable is further held by several stoppers. The dogstopper secures the incoming side of the cable against the outgoing side before and after the bitt.



In front of it we have the bittstopper, alternatively done without the short strop and lashed directly against the bitt ...



... and behind we have n# 3, 4 and 5 three deckstoppers, short strop against an eyebolt and with a thinner rope for lashing.



This thinner rope is turned around several times inside the cuntline before being lashed up.




Greetings, Daniel

Mad detail as usual!

I was reading about nanotech advances the other day; I foresee a TV special in 50 years where nanobot "explorers" crawl through the bowels of of your completed Victory and shock the world with it's builder's skill and attention to detail.

Brillinat...

==> and complete lunacy of course !!

Fascinating journey.,..

Jim Baumann

I have to admitt this is one thread I visit regular and wonder whats going to be on display.

Some may call it lunacy, but it helps me keep me sanity

Great work and will keep on watching the progress.

Hello Daniel
always sublime ,when I see your victory, I'm speechless
Cheers
Nicolas

Thank you Sirs

But being known for my non linear working scheme, I tackled something I was pushing for a while, the lettering for the figurehead.

After long search I found the (possibly) smallest letters available. After all these years of building the first PE

First a template to get a feeling for the space and needed sizes ...



... and really it is the smallest of the set ...



... after cutting the letters I placed them on the backside of a Post-it, as this one glues not too heavily.

Then side 1 "Honi soit q(ui)", the last two letters underneath the volute ...



... and side 2 "mal y pense" .



For glueing I gave up the CA quite fast, and came back to the hint to try paint. The best was the matt varnish I had for my decks.
But not easy to cut without zoing and free ticket to nowhere, and placing on the right place before the paint is too dry ...

And afterwards the next task: the letters on the side of the stem.

Creating some cleanroom atmosphere ...



... and after some nerve wrecking long moments, tada ...



... "Dieu et mon Droit", ...



... and a last one to enjoy.



Amicalement, Daniel

Beautiful ship full of fantastic modeling.

Thank you Sirs

So here comes my interpretation of another new little helper in my shipyard. A small serving machine.



Famous for my lifetime-supply of old Fischer-Technics (luckily my son never was interested in), it can be either turned by hand ...



... or the motor can be switched down. As it is works by friction and not by the gearwheel, the drive can be stopped easily while working just by holding the axis if any correction is needed



I did not use hooks but tubes, a wire is used to get the lines through ...



... and the other side is hold by a toothpic squeezed into the tube. Like this I can shift the serving area to the left or right if longer distances are needed.



First tests on the trials of the mainstay show a nice result, still showing the structure underneath.



But it not just works for the big ones, here are the tests for the thinner ropes, this one 0,5 mm thick.



Here some serving tests. Right the 3/0 fly fishing yarn with the charm of dental floss - very uncool. On the left my usual 8/0 yarn, much better After serving a touch of CA on the ends, still some diluted white glue along the sausage. And juch-huui!

Still tried the 6/0 one, the black one on the right, that is a tad thicker and goes therefore faster in serving, that it will be.



Also tried the direction of serving. Going with the cuntlines - here serving rightwards - results in the serving line getting stuck in the groove and running of, like seen on the right side of the orange one. So always against the cuntlines, that it means

And the result? The modelling ropes have the bad habit to flatten if taken around sharp turns. Totally uncool. Not with Dr. dafis non-patented serving machine! Here a rope of 0,5 mm wraps itself gently around a 0,5 mm drill and nicely keeps its form.



And smaller parts? No prob, if well planned, some of these can be ...



... nicely placed on the same line like M�nchhausens duck hunting



So have a nice day until it will be shouted again: "Mom, he did it again!!!"

Sincereily, dafi

PS: This kind of machines can be found in many variations on the net, either to buy or DIY. But this was a great opportunity to proove dear darling wife that it was a wise decision to keep all these items in the cellar, and not to sell, swoop, give as present - or even through away - already many years ago ... XXXDAN

Dafi-!!!!

-it is astonishing work--I guess for you the journey of construction is as enjoyable as the finished model...
But I must ask-- when the model gets finished...--5 yrs or more...

what ship will be next?

Best wishes

JB

Jim, thank you very much,

gives a big boost, getting comments from you and the other great modellers here
To be honest I was a little afraid before posting here, not knowing if you like this kind of ships and also if I my build would be up to your standards. And actually you are right, the research, construction and building is the great fun, even more than a finished model. Once done it only sits around and takes space ...

I think the 5 years are a fair guess, even though the official timeline states in the year 2525 ...

Meanwhile I still have a small baby-sister for my big one to play with. She will be continued when her time comes, as I need her to try out many things regarding the rigging and the sails.
http://modelshipworld.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15773

All the best, Daniel

*singingin the year 2525*

The bosum�s mate�s whistle sounds across the deck ...

... I will make you spin, dirty old landlubbers, ...

Jack, Ben and Phil are looking with astonishment. The head still heavy, but not from the lovely sound of the beautiful voice, no much more from yesterdays rum in the cosy inn "at the funny anchor", where this lovely mate made them sign in, for a funny cruise with plenty of entertainment and great atmosphere.

... I will teach you, go to the crow�s nest, fetch some eggs for the captains breakfast ...

And here they they find themselves standing on the messenger, supposed to pull it clear the capstan on the outgoing side ...

Jack thinks ... Breakfast ?!? Eggs ?!? Can I have some too? ...
Ben thinks ... what massage was I supposed to get ...
Phil thinks ... who is he talking too, this funny ol�man ...



... I will take you apart and reassemble you for new, even your mother won�t recognise you any longer ...

... and with a loud SQUACH Jack finds himself taken to pieces, lying helplessly on the deck, having NDE-kind of visions just ...



... just to find himself pulled back together again pulling the messenger.



... and I will fix your head ...

Phil feels a strange pain in the back ...



... how I will have a hold on you, ...

... his knees shaking, after a first cut his knees went straight, after the second, leaving a deep cut, thats allows the knees to be bent more with some loving and tender brutality ...

... but he still was happy, as he saw Ben�s fate ...

... I will teach you what it means to show balls ...



... who, after a tender squeeze into the family jewels, opened his legs a tad more to have a better standing.

Already more willing to show working position ...



... our three freshwater sailors reassemble themselves on the messenger, but the bosum�s mate only yells ...

... I ... WANNA ... SEE ... MORE ...

... with a friendly and sweet sounding whip of his starter accompanying each syllable.

So the back leg bent even more to put more grip onto the front one ...



... and ... heave... heave ...heave ...



... and an unnoticeable smile deep on the inside of the mate�s sinister soul comes from enjoying the effects of HIS successful work

And how our three new-bees will become dirty, sweaty and stinking lowerdeck rats, this will be told in one of the future dafi�s sailor's yarn.

XXXDAn

hello professor frankenstdafi

always precise in explaining your steps,really very instructive
thanks for you sharing

cheers
nicolas