GTDEATH13 wrote:How are you goint to paint the superstructure? Which parts will be attached and then painted and which parts will be painted separately?
What kinds of glues do you use to attache parts of different material to each other?
In answer to your questions....... The superstructure is basically all haze grey in color, except for the decks which will be deck blue. I plan to airbrush the entire structure, then brush paint all the decks and horizontal surfaces. Parts that are painted separately will be the gun directors, the crane, and all guns.
Adhesives..... Well, styrene to styrene, either CA or liquid plastic cement. Wood to styrene, CA. Sub assys. to other sub-assys., adhesive caulk, contact cement, or 2 part epoxy. Brass to brass or brass to wood or styrene, CA. with accelerator.
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Hello again all. Here's a new update on the Indiana project. I have completed the aircraft crane on the stern as well as the catapaults. I have also added most of the deck hardware. There's alot going on at the stern section, just as much as the rest of the ship. I never seem to run out of things to make! Looking at photos of BB's, one does not comprehend how much "stuff" there really is, till you start to build it. Wow..... in any event, things are slowly but surely moving forward. Lets take a look.............
An overhead view of the left side of the catapault. The basic structure is photo-etched brass from JR Haynes. It comprises 14 individual parts. The aircraft cradle also comes with it, and has 6 parts. Anything not brass I have added. Note the catwalks. These also come with the catapault, but I found them difficult to bend into shape, so I made my own from .020 diamond plate sheet styrene.
Here's the right side of the cat. The Haynes brass is very well done, and I found assembly to be fairly simple and straightforward. A very accurate piece. I was very happy with it, in spite of the fact that much has to be added.
Close up shot of the aircraft cradle. The OS2U scoutplane will rest here. Railings still need to be added to the catwalks, but I can't find any in p/e that are the correct size. I will either have to make them or just delete them Again note the scratch styrene parts.
The forward end of the cat. Note the "bumper" set up for the cradle. These were hydraulic, I assume and stopped the forward momentum of the cradle. The aircraft were accelerated from 0 to 80 mph in under 2 seconds. A 5" charge without the projectile was used to "fire" the aircraft off the cat. Bumpers are made from styrene rod and consist of 8 pieces.
Mid section of the right side of the cat. Note the motor assy on the base. I believe this was used to pull a cable attached to the cradle, to return it to its firing position. Beneath the brass base plate is a circular piece of .030 styrene, as the plate is too thin when viewed from the side. Beneath that is the actual base of the cat, made from butyrate tubing. Note the small electrical box details. Handreel is an HO freight car part.
Nice overhead view of the stb. cat in it's relative position on deck. Portside not quite finished yet, but you get the idea.
Another view. Note some of the cast metal deck fittings here.
The cat viewed from portside.
Real nice detail view looking to port.
Here we have the aircraft crane. This is also p/e brass from Tom's Modelworks. Not to knock their products, but I find them too thin. The crane consists of 7 pieces. The sideframes were beefed up with .040 sq. styrene to stiffen the structure. The base is another JR Haynes product and is cast metal consisting of 8 pieces and is very well done.The pulleys and the hook are styrene that I fabricated. A bit more rigging has to be finished here.
A close up of the crane base.
Overhead view of the crane assy.
Aft view here looking fwd. showing the cast metal deck fittings I have added. From Bluejacket Shipcrafters.
Forward view here, looking aft showing the deck fittings.
Close up of the deck fittings. Pretty good cast metal, but require some clean up.
Well, that's it for this update. On to making more guns and other"stuff"! Hope you enjoyed, stay tuned, more to come...........I continue on
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Hi Bill ,Once again an outstanding piece of work. Looking closely at the quality of the components of the catapult ,I would think it would be very difficult to build it in any other way other than PE and achieve the SAME results .As you say you are approaching the final stages of your build . It is at this stage that the model starts to blossom and you get to feel that the final stage of the build is close, but look at the reward for all that diligent work. A SUPERB MODEL . I am certainly looking forward to seeing your Indiana in all her glory as a completed model .
One question, have you started the construction of the float planes ?
Dave Wooley
Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Bill Once again an outstanding piece of work. Looking closely at the quality of the components of catapult I would think it would be very difficult to build in any other way other than PE and achieve the SAME results .As you say you are approaching the final stages of your build . It is at this stage that the model starts to blossom and you get to feel that the final stage of the build is close but look at the reward for all that diligent work A SUPERB MODEL . I�ll am certainly looking forward to seeing your Indiana in all her glory as a completed model .
One question have you started the construction of the float planes ?
Dave Wooley
Hello again Dave Thanks for the comments. No, I have not started on the floatplanes as of yet. They are cast resin, again from JR Haynes. I must give this fellow alot of credit. His products are superb in many respects. Still, givin that, alot is left to the individual to figure out. I guess you could say that I'm "cheating" a bit by using lots of things that are already made. I could scratchbuild everything, but I would be here for years doing that. Using things that are already available is a time saver more than anything else. Leaves me to concentrate more on other areas of the model. There are times when I stand back and look at the ship on the bench and wonder how I ever pulled this off to begin with! The Indiana is not perfect, but it's as close as I'm going to get it. I too am looking fwd. to completion. Time to move on soon. Awaiting more on your Kiev, too.
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Dave Wooley wrote:Hi Bill Once again an outstanding piece of work. Looking closely at the quality of the components of catapult I would think it would be very difficult to build in any other way other than PE and achieve the SAME results .As you say you are approaching the final stages of your build . It is at this stage that the model starts to blossom and you get to feel that the final stage of the build is close but look at the reward for all that diligent work A SUPERB MODEL . I�ll am certainly looking forward to seeing your Indiana in all her glory as a completed model .
One question have you started the construction of the float planes ?
Dave Wooley
Hello again Dave Thanks for the comments. No, I have not started on the floatplanes as of yet. They are cast resin, again from JR Haynes. I must give this fellow alot of credit. His products are superb in many respects. Still, givin that, alot is left to the individual to figure out. I guess you could say that I'm "cheating" a bit by using lots of things that are already made. I could scratchbuild everything, but I would be here for years doing that. Using things that are already available is a time saver more than anything else. Leaves me to concentrate more on other areas of the model. There are times when I stand back and look at the ship on the bench and wonder how I ever pulled this off to begin with! The Indiana is not perfect, but it's as close as I'm going to get it. I too am looking fwd. to completion. Time to move on soon. Awaiting more on your Kiev, too.
Bill, Cheating then I'm with you. All of my air group are resin? the Hull is GRP { slightly reworked but GRP non the less}So we both indulge in a spot of PE , why not , if it gets the results and gets the job done so be it. You along with ARH scratch build your hulls!!!! probably the hardest part of any scratch built project .
Dave Wooley
You know, this ship build is so cool. This ship could be used as a motion-control model. I am really looking forward to seeing this finished up and painted. It will be remarkable. What commitment and dedication. There are so many lessons I have learned from this build for my own. It's a true inspiration!!!!
navydavesof wrote:You know, this ship build is so cool. This ship could be used as a motion-control model. I am really looking forward to seeing this finished up and painted. It will be remarkable. What commitment and dedication. There are so many lessons I have learned from this build for my own. It's a true inspiration!!!!
Keep it up, Bill!!!
Thanks for the post! Commitment and dedication ???.................Yes, I guess thats true. But, I really got not much else to do,except work, dat day job you know. My wife died during the first part of this build, so I guess it's been slow going. I should have had this done months ago. Building this and other ships is a chill time for me. Get away from all of lifes BS for a while. So, when the ship is complete, I will dedicate it to her. She was proud of me and for what I have done with some of the vets in WW2. I tried to build them some sort of a lasting legacy for what they did. Commitment and dedication is the key to personal satisfaction. Glad that you found things interesting. See my PM.........................
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Here's a new update on the Indiana project. I have completed the aircraft crane on the stern as well as the catapaults. I have also added most of the deck hardware. There's alot going on at the stern section, just as much as the rest of the ship. I never seem to run out of things to make! Looking at photos of BB's, one does not comprehend how much "stuff" there really is, till you start to build it. Wow..... in any event, things are slowly but surely moving forward. Lets take a look.............
If you belive that , I have a bridge for sale . 