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Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:33 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks George!
Yes, each boat will function as a (secondary) focal point on the diorama, so I think they deserve the time spent on them.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2021 9:14 am
by Rui Matos
Marijn
I am going to say something that nobody has said before:
I HATE YOU (in a good way, that is, LOL)!
Amazing work, and I guess that you are starting to hitch to start painting this!
BZ
Rui
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2021 8:36 am
by Dan K
As I don't have any new adjectives to throw out, I will re-use "superb" for those boats.
Usually, I don�t count parts, but this time I did get curious.

The biggest boat has well over 150 individual parts in it, the smallest almost 60.
So in that last photo, I�m holding close to 1000 pieces in my hand�
Ok. That's way beyond AMS. Borderline insanity. But still exquisite.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 2:27 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks Rui and Dan!
Those are the best kind of insults...

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:21 am
by ModelMonkey
Each one of Marijn's boats has more parts than a typical 1/350 scale submarine model kit x 5.
Beautiful.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 11:44 am
by Rui Matos
marijn van gils wrote:Many thanks Rui and Dan!
Those are the best kind of insults...

I can do this all day long, or stop it and do something in 1/700!
BTW, I am glad you understood the humour Marijn!
Cheers and please continue to amaze us with the SUPER WORK!
Rui
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:37 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks Steve and Rui!
ModelMonkey wrote:Each one of Marijn's boats has more parts than a typical 1/350 scale submarine model kit x 5.
And two of them will have a larger crew too!

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 9:11 am
by GewoonWouter
well, my mom declared me insane when looking at my 1/350 sub + crew when she visited last weekend. It's quite clear she has never seen your work Marijn
Nice bunch of little floaters, indrukwekkend as we tend to say in proper Dutch.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 10:14 am
by Maarten Sch�nfeld
GewoonWouter wrote:well, my mom declared me insane when looking at my 1/350 sub + crew when she visited last weekend. It's quite clear she has never seen your work Marijn
Nice bunch of little floaters, indrukwekkend as we tend to say in proper Dutch.
Well, in Belgium one is rather quickly declared insane.

Some even use this to abandon their marriage. And to fight that verdict is often extremely difficult! So beware of your mom, Wouter!

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2021 11:05 am
by GewoonWouter
Maarten Sch�nfeld wrote:GewoonWouter wrote:well, my mom declared me insane when looking at my 1/350 sub + crew when she visited last weekend. It's quite clear she has never seen your work Marijn
Nice bunch of little floaters, indrukwekkend as we tend to say in proper Dutch.
Well, in Belgium one is rather quickly declared insane.

Some even use this to abandon their marriage. And to fight that verdict is often extremely difficult! So beware of your mom, Wouter!

mmmm...won't show this to my wife either LOL
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 9:58 am
by marijn van gils
Meanwhile, I scratchbuilt the yards of the Redoutable. I used aluminium again to keep them light but strong. Only on the boomkins I used brass (these don�t need to be light), and for the stun�sail booms I used plastic (they don�t need to be strong, because no rigging is attached).
I tried to give the impression of the stun�sail booms �lying� in their irons, instead of being clamped by them, by gluing them to the bottom of slightly oversized rings (sliced from aluminium tubing).
The stun�sail booms will be left detached until after painting and preliminary rigging of the yards (hence the blobs of Blu Tack). The connection between the boom iron �rings� and the yards will be added only at that time.
The square elements on the yardarms were made from Magic Sculp. A blob of putty was left to harden around the yard, then sanded and carved to shape.
The spanker boom and gaff had their jaws shaped in-situ too. First, oversized plastic pieces were glued in place:
Then the insides were filed to fit to the mizzen mast:
And finally their outsides were carved and sanded to size/shape. I found out this needs a soft touch, as I did have to re-attach some pieces more than once�
The jaws of the spanker boom in place: (the mizzen is 2mm thick here)
I had already built the more complicated pieces of mast floating in the sea earlier. But now I also built the smaller pieces of debris and shaped them like parts of masts and yards. Much smaller debris (splinters, pieces of planks, etc.) will follow later.
The overall picture is starting to get pretty complete now�

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:49 am
by wefalck
One has to always remind oneself how small all this is ...
Personally, I would have probably made the yards and booms from steel or brass with bits soldered on. Your dexterity with styrene is always impressive !
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:36 pm
by Iceman 29
Always amazed by the finesse of your work.
A pleasure to follow.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:10 pm
by Martocticvs
marijn van gils wrote:The jaws of the spanker boom in place: (the mizzen is 2mm thick here)

Took me a minute or two to comprehend that you said the
mizzen mast is only 2mm. I was thinking you meant the boom first!
Looking awesome

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 2:38 pm
by Maarten Sch�nfeld
Martocticvs wrote:marijn van gils wrote:The jaws of the spanker boom in place: (the mizzen is 2mm thick here)

Took me a minute or two to comprehend that you said the
mizzen mast is only 2mm. I was thinking you meant the boom first!
Looking awesome

Hi Martocticvs
What do you think of the belaying pins you see in the background? Guess what diameter these have?
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:40 pm
by Goodwood
Surely a show-stopper wherever this slugfest happens to turn up, even at this stage...
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 2:24 am
by marijn van gils
Many thanks everyone!
Maarten Sch�nfeld wrote:Hi Martocticvs
What do you think of the belaying pins you see in the background? Guess what diameter these have?
I don't have to guess.

They are 0,2mm brass rod.
That boom is 0,9mm at its thickest, but that is near the centre of the boom. At the mast end, it is about 0,7mm.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 6:13 am
by Milan Kuliffay
Fantastic, precise, almost watchmaker's work.
I am very much looking forward to the outcome of this project.
Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Thu Sep 30, 2021 11:22 am
by GewoonWouter
yeah, that's just gobsmacking again. And indeed, even with the matchstick in some photos we tend to forget how large this is...I can only imagine that in the flesh the shear size (or absence of it) is even more impressive.
Meanwhile I need some surgery, time and time again my chin dropped fast and hard on the floor when I check each and every update

Re: HMS Victory and Le Redoutable at Trafalgar (1/300)
Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2021 2:03 am
by marijn van gils