1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
looking good dave,you must have a very steady hand ,railings always give me fits,i get one ready to install and worry about bumping or losing it on the floor.have spent lots of time looking on the floor only to find it on my sleeve.your work keeps me centerd ,slows me down so i don't make as many mistakes.
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Excellent work David.
Regards
Michael
Regards
Michael
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Hi Michael Thanks for your kind words of encouragement always appreciated .Mike Reading wrote:Excellent work David.
Regards
Michael
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Dave,I have enjoyed your build so much. That i will make a waterline papercard 1:144 1990'S MIDWAY! 
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I recently paid a visit to the Fleet Air Arm Museum at Yeovilton UK. Wonderfull place. Wall to wall carrier aircraft but when I laid eyes on the carrier models, I was transfixed no mesmerized . Forget Kiev I just wanted to build every carrier there. Eventually I recovered . The dream was over and it was back to reality and Kiev.gtb -red wrote:Dave,I have enjoyed your build so much. That i will make a waterline papercard 1:144 1990'S MIDWAY!
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
HI DW the railing your useing are they from fleetscale ? an your kiev build is trully inspireing me to try harder on my nimitz build yours is a wonderfull build
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Hi Chris good to see you posting . The railing are from Gordon Brooks he can be contacted on gcbrooks@tiscali.co.uk. and thanks for your kind comments. It would be good to see your Nimitz build posted on here as well .boatman wrote:HI DW the railing your useing are they from fleetscale ? an your kiev build is trully inspireing me to try harder on my nimitz build yours is a wonderfull build
chris
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HI DW many thanks for your answer on railings an yes i hopefully will post my NIMITZ build on here
chris
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Couple of questions Dave, if I may?
1 - You recently posted construction of the vent covers etc on the port side - pictures of everything - except how you made the vent covers, or are they bought? Having trouble working out construction of same for Kuznetsov.
2 - I also notice life rafts - again - no comment - if made, how, if bought - where from? Have not yet discovered ANYONE who makes them at 1:144. Found suitable beads for the HST, but they are a totaly differant shape.
Without wishing to presume on your obvious skills, could I make a suggestion regarding railings, for what it's worth? Whatever they are made from, trying to fix the individual uprights to a deck is a pain. Courtesy of a modeler in Canada I was shown a way that has proved much easier. If it's 3 rail , make it 4 rail and use the 4th rail to fasten the whole thing down - most decks have a lip and this helps even more to fix the whole thing down. Same rule applies to 2 or 5 rail - just add a rail.
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1 - You recently posted construction of the vent covers etc on the port side - pictures of everything - except how you made the vent covers, or are they bought? Having trouble working out construction of same for Kuznetsov.
2 - I also notice life rafts - again - no comment - if made, how, if bought - where from? Have not yet discovered ANYONE who makes them at 1:144. Found suitable beads for the HST, but they are a totaly differant shape.
Without wishing to presume on your obvious skills, could I make a suggestion regarding railings, for what it's worth? Whatever they are made from, trying to fix the individual uprights to a deck is a pain. Courtesy of a modeler in Canada I was shown a way that has proved much easier. If it's 3 rail , make it 4 rail and use the 4th rail to fasten the whole thing down - most decks have a lip and this helps even more to fix the whole thing down. Same rule applies to 2 or 5 rail - just add a rail.
Paul Bannon
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Hi Bannon Good to hear from you. To answer your questions.bannon wrote:Couple of questions Dave, if I may?
1 - You recently posted construction of the vent covers etc on the port side - pictures of everything - except how you made the vent covers, or are they bought? Having trouble working out construction of same for Kuznetsov.
2 - I also notice life rafts - again - no comment - if made, how, if bought - where from? Have not yet discovered ANYONE who makes them at 1:144. Found suitable beads for the HST, but they are a totaly differant shape.
Without wishing to presume on your obvious skills, could I make a suggestion regarding railings, for what it's worth? Whatever they are made from, trying to fix the individual uprights to a deck is a pain. Courtesy of a modeler in Canada I was shown a way that has proved much easier. If it's 3 rail , make it 4 rail and use the 4th rail to fasten the whole thing down - most decks have a lip and this helps even more to fix the whole thing down. Same rule applies to 2 or 5 rail - just add a rail.
Paul Bannon
1 The vent covers or louverred effect are are formed from Evergreen "corrugated" sheet .50mm thick.
2 The Life raft containers at 1:144 are part of the original kit{ The Ukrainian company that made the kit no longer exists in fact their last kit was a 1:144 Kuznetzov} and are in moulded plastic . I originally made these for Moskva in large numbers but was glad they were one of the few parts that were salvageable from the original kit .
Yes you are quite right regarding the fixing of the fourth rail to the deck. This only works if the rail is fitted inboard of the kicking plate . On Kiev and Kuznetzov many of the rails are welded to the outer edge of a kicking plate. This is very noticable around a number of the platforms and walkways on the superstructure. Others are fitted directly via stanchions to the platform or deck surface.
It will be really good to see your build on the board, another carrier
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Thanks Dave
Will follow up on the Evergreen - local shop stocks the full range - guess I will just have to carry on looking for life rafts or do a little research on 'home casting'
You are right regarding railings but unfortunatly some of us have not got the level of skill of your good self. I like to make as much of my stuff myself and I am rubbish at soldering, so mostly use styrene. I felt that the railings on my HST that WERE fixed outside the kick plate just did not 'look' good enough - so, skills and ability being limited, I felt the extra rail a fair compromise and 'looked' better
Thanks again
Paul Bannon
Will follow up on the Evergreen - local shop stocks the full range - guess I will just have to carry on looking for life rafts or do a little research on 'home casting'
You are right regarding railings but unfortunatly some of us have not got the level of skill of your good self. I like to make as much of my stuff myself and I am rubbish at soldering, so mostly use styrene. I felt that the railings on my HST that WERE fixed outside the kick plate just did not 'look' good enough - so, skills and ability being limited, I felt the extra rail a fair compromise and 'looked' better
Thanks again
Paul Bannon
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
More fittings this time two 152mm PK-2 chaff launchers at 1:144 scale.
The assembly is made up from .50mm and 1mm styrene sheet which forms
the base. Styrene tube for holding the barrels formed from aluminum tube. .

First openings are drilled into the styrene tube to allow for the barrels.
The styrene tube is shaped as the top is slightly narrower than the bottom.
Each tube is then bedded onto its mounting.

The open sides are closed and holes are drilled into the back of the mounting
for two brass tubes {this formed part of the firing mechanism}

Aluminum and brass tubes ready to be fitted.
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The assembly is made up from .50mm and 1mm styrene sheet which forms
the base. Styrene tube for holding the barrels formed from aluminum tube. .

First openings are drilled into the styrene tube to allow for the barrels.
The styrene tube is shaped as the top is slightly narrower than the bottom.
Each tube is then bedded onto its mounting.

The open sides are closed and holes are drilled into the back of the mounting
for two brass tubes {this formed part of the firing mechanism}

Aluminum and brass tubes ready to be fitted.
Dave Wooley More to follow
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
As ever-- Dave makes it look easy...!
great methodology!- oh- and nice to see you around ARH....!#
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great methodology!- oh- and nice to see you around ARH....!#
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
This is the PK-2 as fitted to an Udaloy 1.

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Each of the barrels are fitted and the base is ready to be assembled

With the base assembled the mounting is fitted into place. There are a series
of bolts around the edges of the mounting. These were simulated using a length
of wire as an applicator and spots of PVA glue.

The process of using PVA takes minutes to apply but approximately 2 hours to
harden

A further reference to the size of each PK-2 launcher.

Find out next time the purpose of this simple piece of shaped styrene and
how it�s the key to painting the model?

Dave Wooley

With the base assembled the mounting is fitted into place. There are a series
of bolts around the edges of the mounting. These were simulated using a length
of wire as an applicator and spots of PVA glue.

The process of using PVA takes minutes to apply but approximately 2 hours to
harden

A further reference to the size of each PK-2 launcher.

Find out next time the purpose of this simple piece of shaped styrene and
how it�s the key to painting the model?

Dave Wooley
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
More of the shaped styrene which will cover deck levels on the superstructure
and after sponsons. The reason for it being so useful is that it makes painting
many of these levels {brown �red finish} so much easier, no masking off yet
will deliver sharp edges. Also useful for preparing the PE.

Each off the overlays which have a raised surround as per the ship are laid
into place on the starboard after sponson which includes the PK-2


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and after sponsons. The reason for it being so useful is that it makes painting
many of these levels {brown �red finish} so much easier, no masking off yet
will deliver sharp edges. Also useful for preparing the PE.

Each off the overlays which have a raised surround as per the ship are laid
into place on the starboard after sponson which includes the PK-2


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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
such very neat work!-crisp and sharp!
I look forward immensely to seeing her in paint!
JB
I look forward immensely to seeing her in paint!
JB
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Guys,
Dave,
You are indeed doing this ship justice!
Stay sharp; she's looking mighty fine!
Tony
Dave,
You are indeed doing this ship justice!
Stay sharp; she's looking mighty fine!
Tony
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Re: 1/144 Kiev by Dave Wooley
Hi Dave, Its the little things that take the time, but they make the model, your doing a super job,

Simple but effective.