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Yes it can.
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JFK and Connie combined.
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3d printed 1/700 sclae USS Forrestal
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Cool!

Where does one get one of those?

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USS America CVA66 - sonar dome

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I believe that the USS America CVA66 was the only supper carrier to be built with a sonar dome. And also a center bow anchor to clear the sonar dome. I also believe the sonar equipment and the dome were removed in the 80's. I'm building a 1:350 model of the America using a Trumpeter Constellation hull. Since Constellation didn't have sonar, no sonar dome. Can anyone help me with a photo of America's sonar dome (which she had at her commissioning in 1965.

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Would anyone have any detail shots of the LRLS bar on the fantail? Specifically the vertical yellow bar that actually holds the lights. I�m making a 1/144 diorama that will include this and am looking for some detail photos to help with scratch-building. Thank you for any input!
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This is USS Constellation.
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Guba wrote:This is USS Constellation.
Thank you! But I am looking for the LRLS on the fantail. Not the IFLOLS. It's the vertical yellow bar in this picture, but I'm hoping for closer pics since I'm trying to do this at 1/144 scale.

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ESzczesniak wrote:Would anyone have any detail shots of the LRLS bar on the fantail? Specifically the vertical yellow bar that actually holds the lights. I�m making a 1/144 diorama that will include this and am looking for some detail photos to help with scratch-building. Thank you for any input!
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Admhawk wrote:
ESzczesniak wrote:Would anyone have any detail shots of the LRLS bar on the fantail? Specifically the vertical yellow bar that actually holds the lights. I�m making a 1/144 diorama that will include this and am looking for some detail photos to help with scratch-building. Thank you for any input!
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Thank you, I'll have to look in to that.
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1/350 CVA-62
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Multiple sources tells that the Forrestals had 3 Sea Sparrow launchers by the mid 1980's, but did the Saratoga too carry 3 such launchers?
There was one on the port side forward, one aft starboard near the aft Phalanx CIWS but the 3rd I do not know.
I've collected photos of Saratoga and Forrestal and they seem only carried 2.
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TZoli wrote:but did the Saratoga too carry 3 such launchers?
There was one on the port side forward, one aft starboard near the aft Phalanx CIWS but the 3rd I do not know.
There's one STARBOARD side forward and one port side aft. The port side forward was a Phalanx only. I would agree with there being only two Seasparrow launchers.

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I mix that two words often...
So seems like only Ranger and Independence had 3 launchers? The 3rd one being on the right or starboard side aft, after the boat/aircraft crane where the two 5"/54 Mark 18 guns were?
Interesting that the other two ships did not receive the 3rd Sea Sparrow launcher.

Forrestal and Saratoga had some sort of large brownish-greenish cylinders stored there which I do not know what.
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If I am not mistaken the first two Forrestals received two sea sparrow missile launchers while the last two three.
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TZoli wrote:I mix that two words often...
So seems like only Ranger and Independence had 3 launchers? The 3rd one being on the right or starboard side aft, after the boat/aircraft crane where the two 5"/54 Mark 18 guns were?
Interesting that the other two ships did not receive the 3rd Sea Sparrow launcher.

Forrestal and Saratoga had some sort of large brownish-greenish cylinders stored there which I do not know what.

The large brownish-greenish cylinders are likely canisters that they stored spare jet engines in. They often stored them outside on the sponsons.

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Mark McKinnis wrote:
TZoli wrote:I mix that two words often...
So seems like only Ranger and Independence had 3 launchers? The 3rd one being on the right or starboard side aft, after the boat/aircraft crane where the two 5"/54 Mark 18 guns were?
Interesting that the other two ships did not receive the 3rd Sea Sparrow launcher.

Forrestal and Saratoga had some sort of large brownish-greenish cylinders stored there which I do not know what.

The large brownish-greenish cylinders are likely canisters that they stored spare jet engines in. They often stored them outside on the sponsons.

Mark
Thanks! I see they are frequently moved with various numbers located there in various positions (parallel or perpendicular to the flight deck)

Other question:
Do somebody know the colour scheme of the USN warships of the 1970's-80's?
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Does anybody have closer up photos of the elusive SPN-44 radar? Very limited info available on the net. The plans of Saratoga shows one such antenna on the aft part of the superstructure close to the aft mast:
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And this photo of Saratoga in 1982 shows a small, sort of dish like antenna of roughly 1-1,5m in diameter close to the aft mast:
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I agree that the SPN-44 are those two small circular dishes on the two aft corners (the "Mickey Mouse ear platforms") of the 08 level. Apparently the -44 has been replaced by SPN-46, and that looks about the same.

Since this photo is from the Trials following the major work in SLEP 1980-83, it is possible that all of the sensors are not yet installed here.
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