Calling all Gato-class (SS-212) fans
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Re: Calling all USS Gato class (SS) fans
My guess is that F.H. is a flood hole, and would be normally submerged as opposed to dry when on the surface. Does that match with what your plans show?
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Big chunks of what? Things that are positively buoyant float on the surface, not ten feet below.carr wrote:you'd think screening out big chunks of things would be beneficial.
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On your question in regard to the Gato tower (fairwater) yes very different between Commercial Yards (EB/Mant.) to Govt yards (Mare/PM). The inner Conning tower pressure hull is similar on both in size however the fairwater are very different. The Eb/Man fairwater is wider forward to encircle the PH at its base boot and thins out aft (Like the revell Gato) , It also tapers inward forward to the mid section. The Govt tower is also wide at the boot to encircle the PH but has less of an upward taper then the eb, thus the upper deck is wider and does not thin out for the aft making the deck and side lines more parallel. The Trumpy fairwater is an off child of both, it should have been in the form of the eb since the hull is an EB boat. This means it should have been wider at the boot with the flared angles in the front and thinner in the back. Balaos are another story. But when it comes US subs, don't be surprised if there is a black sheep for some reason or another..
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Bob, Your welcome, I am glad you brought up the Zinc Anodes, I saw a good question somewhere about them a while back on whether or not they were applied on early pre- war Gatos, The answer is yes, I ran into them researching photos of older pre- war Gatos that were dry docked.
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Thanks Bob, There are some in the Model warships gallery http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html and also in the Iron bottom sound gallery, http://ibs.eastcoastarmory.com/ with a few other model builders. A lot of detailing including the new echo sound system.
On the Screens in 1/144 there is a brass sheet of a very fine mesh that will work 1/144 made by K&S http://www.Ksmetals.com 773-586-8503 in Chicago. Its not that expensive and will last you for many boats.
On the Screens in 1/144 there is a brass sheet of a very fine mesh that will work 1/144 made by K&S http://www.Ksmetals.com 773-586-8503 in Chicago. Its not that expensive and will last you for many boats.
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Re: Calling all USS Gato class (SS) fans
Which kit would you recommend? Trumpeter's 1/144 or Revell's 1/72?
I tend to Revell's 1/72 (mainly because it is big!!) Any suggestions or advice would be more than welcome....
I tend to Revell's 1/72 (mainly because it is big!!) Any suggestions or advice would be more than welcome....
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Re: Calling all USS Gato class (SS) fans
I recall reading about this in Fluckey's book (Thunder Below- fantastic read, by the by...). My memory is hazy, but I'll check tonight. My quick recollection is that the launcher was stowed and they ran drills to become efficient in quick setup, launch, and teardown.
In doing a quick search, I came across this, which is hysterical- http://satsailor.com/?p=9
In doing a quick search, I came across this, which is hysterical- http://satsailor.com/?p=9
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While I will agree it is funny as all get-out, it ain't safe for work due to strong language.
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Re: Calling all USS Gato class (SS) fans
Does anyone know what type of deck gun is supplied with the 1:144 Trumpeter 1944 kit?
Thanks
Timm
Thanks
Timm
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New Movie of SS-199 Tautog
Hi all.
My current project is building a model of SS-199 Tautog as she appeared in 1959 just before she was cut up for scrap. My WIP thread is here- viewtopic.php?f=59&t=45969
Tautog was towed from Milwaukee to Manistee MI. She was tied up in the Manistee River Channel at the foot of Oak Street and opened for public tours for a time. Later she was pulled up the river to Bultema Dock and Dredge Co. and scrapped. Her 4"50 deck gun is now mounted to the deck of SS Pampanito located in San Fransisco.
My Dad filmed the Tautog back in '59 and '60 to document her end. He was using a Kodak 8mm movie camera and filmed the sub from both the water and from shore. I recently dug up my family's home movies and thought others might be interested in seeing this footage. I converted the 8mm film to video. I hope you enjoy watching it.
Really a sad ending for a ship credited with shooting down the very first Japanese plane at Pearl as the United States entered the second world war and Tautog received 14 battle stars and the Navy Unit Commendation for World War II service.
Timm
My current project is building a model of SS-199 Tautog as she appeared in 1959 just before she was cut up for scrap. My WIP thread is here- viewtopic.php?f=59&t=45969
Tautog was towed from Milwaukee to Manistee MI. She was tied up in the Manistee River Channel at the foot of Oak Street and opened for public tours for a time. Later she was pulled up the river to Bultema Dock and Dredge Co. and scrapped. Her 4"50 deck gun is now mounted to the deck of SS Pampanito located in San Fransisco.
My Dad filmed the Tautog back in '59 and '60 to document her end. He was using a Kodak 8mm movie camera and filmed the sub from both the water and from shore. I recently dug up my family's home movies and thought others might be interested in seeing this footage. I converted the 8mm film to video. I hope you enjoy watching it.
Really a sad ending for a ship credited with shooting down the very first Japanese plane at Pearl as the United States entered the second world war and Tautog received 14 battle stars and the Navy Unit Commendation for World War II service.
Timm
Timm Smith
Learn something new about the ship or your job every day. Ignorance is not bliss aboard a warship in wartime. Ignorance could cost the life of yourself, a shipmate, or the loss of the ship.
- Personal Information Booklet CV- 38
Learn something new about the ship or your job every day. Ignorance is not bliss aboard a warship in wartime. Ignorance could cost the life of yourself, a shipmate, or the loss of the ship.
- Personal Information Booklet CV- 38