1/200 BISMARCK / TIRPITZ MODELER'S SHARED RESOURCES LIST

[Wilhelm]

1/200 BISMARCK / TIRPITZ DATABASE - PAGE 1

My idea is to "chip away" at posting an extensive list of shared or pooled resources to help others who are building a 1/200 Bismarck or Tirpitz. The list will include reference books, videos, websites, photoetch parts, resin parts, wood decks, paints, tools, etc., etc. I will add to my own listing as long as I can go back and edit this post (600,000 characters max). Then I'll start a new, continued post.

Obviously, there will be some "overlap" of research resources which are useful for Bismarck modelers in any scale.

I welcome anyone adding resource posts to this thread that apply to general research OR TO BUILDING A 1/200 SCALE BISMARCK or TIRPITZ. KINDLY REFRAIN FROM POSTING RESOURCES APPLICABLE ONLY TO 1/350 or 1/700 SCALE MODELS AS THIS 1/200 SCALE THREAD WILL THEN BECOME VERY "CLUTTERED" AND UNWIELDY. It would seem more appropriate to begin another scale thread elsewhere.

Posts which review the resources listed would be helpful to others, For example, why is a certain book so good (or not so good) in your opinion? Is it worth purchasing?

Wilhelm

BOOKS:

1. AJ Press; #1, #3, #15, #16, #17, #18. Out of print.

2. "Anatomy of the Ship: The Battleship Bismarck," by Jack Brower; Conway Maritime Press, 2008

3. "The Battleship Bismarck, A Documentary in Words and Pictures" by Ulrich Elfrath and Bodo Herzog, Schiffer Publishing 1989. Comment: An excellent, but limited, older resource with many black and white photos and a few color plates of Bismarck and Hood. You can get a used copy in E-bay for $20.00 and up

4. "Battleship Bismarck, A Survivor' Story" by Baron Burkhard Von Muellenheim-Rechberg; United States Naval Institute, 1980. This is a textual history with some interesting photos.

5. "The Battleship Bismarck. The Complete History of the Ship" by Jose Rico, Published April 2012

6. "The Battleship Bismarck, Super Drawings in 3D" by Waldemar Goralski and Grzegorz Nowak; KAGERO Publishing

7. "Battleships of the Bismarck Class" by Gerhard Koop and Klaus-Peter Schmolke; Greenhill Books, London 1998 (also by Naval Institute Press, USA)

8. "BismarcK" by John Asmussen. Due for release end of May, 2013

9. "Bismarck and Tirpitz" by Steve Backer, ShipCraft 10; Seaforth Publishing

10. "The Discovery of the Bismarck" by Robert C. Ballard, Warner-Madison Press, 1990

11. "Schlachtschiff Bismarck - Das Modell" by Josef Kaiser, Simon Frey Verlag NOW OUT-OF-PRINT and much sought after. Simon Frey Verlag stopped publishing in 2011 "due to health issues." Pictures of Josef Kaiser's extremely researched and detailed 1/100 model. This link gives a snippet: http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellane ... eview.html

12. "Schlachtschiff Bismarck - Das Original" by Josef Kaiser, Simon Frey Verlag NOW OUT-OF-PRINT and much sought after. Simon Frey Verlag stopped publishing in 2011 "due to health issues." This link gives a snippet: http://www.bismarck-class.dk/miscellane ... eview.html

BRASS DISPLAY PEDESTALS

1. KA-Models Mk-1. Details about dimensions not given.
http://www.ka-models.com/index.php?rout ... uct_id=292

2. Do-It-Yourself viewtopic.php?f=59&t=149456&start=20#p575269

BRASS PROPELLERS

1. G FACTOR MODELS 1/200 BRASS Bismarck / Tirpitz propellers. Their website isn't up yet, so you'll purchase through the hobby dealer of your choice. This link is to Amazon and shows a photo. http://www.amazon.com/GFM120002-G-Facto ... B00B10AII2

CREW FIGURES:

http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/Krie ... 200%20crew AND http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/Krie ... 20officers Comment: Bismarck was strictly a WARTIME ship, being commissioned in August, 1940. With the onset of war in September, 1939, wear of white uniforms was prohibited in the Kriegsmarine (except by U-boat skippers, who retained the white cap). The Eduard enlisted figures seem to be wearing the off-white herringbone twill fatigues ("drilling" work uniform), some with the blue jumper and overseas cap, and holding tools, like brooms and paint brushes. Others wear only the white "drilling" uniform. Sometime in 1940 the "drilling" color was changed to field gray, but Bismarck photos show most of the crew in the earlier off-white color. NCO's would have been attired as enlisted ranks with the exception of badges sewn. I do not think the blue and white color combination would be correct for Officers, who wore the solid navy blue uniform.

NorthStar Models promises a future release of 1/200 Kriegsmarine figures (presently only available in 1/350 and 1/144)
http://northstarmodels.com/product-category/figures/

Preiser Z-Scale (1/220) figures are compatible with 1/200 Bismarck and can be adapted. Look for Preiser #88500 - 160 unpainted figures. Otherwise Preiser will be cost prohibitive.



DECALS:

1. 1/200 Blue Ridge Models Bismarck deck air recognition markings http://www.freetimehobbies.com/BRM-D-20001/

ERRORS:

1. Anchor cluses - forward starboard and port cluses need to be "beefed up." The purpose of the cluse is to hold the descending anchor away from the bulbous bulge at the bottom of the fore-hull. viewtopic.php?f=59&t=144178&start=40#p561765 and viewtopic.php?f=59&t=149456&start=20#p574761 Also, the kit moulded stem cluse needs to be closed and repositioned higher up: download/file.php?id=55840&mode=view

2. Conning tower (or forward armored artillery command post) lacks a middle armored window on the front. Trumpeter forgot a way for Admiral Lutjens to look forward in combat! surfacehttp://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic ... 00#p563485

3. Hull shape: Truth be known, this is a nightmarish topic. I choose to close my eyes and build as-it-is, leaving the kit hull largely intact. There are many kit hull errors which deviate increasingly from the original plan as you move aft. NigelR32 has devoted an entire thread to this! viewtopic.php?f=59&t=146838&start=60#p569479

FLAGS:

http://modellschlachtschiffe.de/shop/pr ... istory=cat CAUTION: Here is a factual report on my purchasing experience from this company: PHYSICAL ADDRESS: Florian Hafemann, Hermannstrasse 14, 23896 Nusse, Germany. After contacting Mr. Hafemann and obtaining approval, I placed a $100.00 USD order by PayPal on March 11, 2013. As an afterthought, within 24 hours, I contacted Mr. Hafemann again and received E-mail approval to add an additional $50.00 USD to my PayPal order (total order = $150.00 USD). Eventually, April 3, 2013, I received an E-mail from modellschlachtschiffe.de that my order had shipped. But the listed invoice on that E-mail was incomplete. So, I wrote to the company four (4) times over three or four weeks without receiving any reply. By May 3, I had received NOTHING, despite the notice goods had been shipped. I contacted PayPal and received an automated reply that "PayPal cannot provide refunds on purchases of goods of this type." I then E-mailed Mr. Hafemann a FIFTH (5th) time IN GERMAN, threatening to contact the Nusse, Germany Police. I received a prompt reply that my shipment had been made but apparently gone astray and would be tracked...no tracking number given (????) The following day, I received an E-mail (with a new tracking number) that a replacement shipment had been made, but $50.00 of goods still remained "on backorder." I finally received 2/3 of my order on May 15, 2013 (more than two months after ordering), and I still do not know when or if the remaining 1/3 of my order will be received. I AM ADVISING CAUTION REGARDING PURCHASING HERE. PROS: The received goods are nice quality just as depicted on the website. CONS: 1.) Poor company communications regarding problematic orders; 2.) PayPal cannot be relied upon to refund your money if things "go wrong;" 3.) I had to go to extremes (threatening local police complaint) to spur company to action and receive my partial order.

ADDENDUM September 15, 2013: The "backordered" goods were paid for by PayPal March 11, 2013, and NEVER RECEIVED. NEITHER WAS A REFUND RECEIVED. AVOID!!!

MUSIC:

1. "Auf der Reeperbahn nachts um halb eins," Hans Albers 1943. Sailor song about the wild life ashore/ party life on Hamburg's "Reeperbahn" (red light district) sung by one of the German stars of the 1930's - 1940's . St. Pauli is the famous landmark church near the Reeperbahn, so there are many German sailor references to it as with "St. Pauli Girl Beer," etc. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07hn4uXJ-tQ

2. "Das Engeland Lied," Hermann Loens 1866 -1914; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzAKClcYz1E

3. "Das kann doch einen Seemann nicht erschuettern" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW9O3WkH19s

4. "Deutsches Fahnenlied," (German Flag Song), Richard Thiele (1847-1903); A popular navy song, initially of the Kaiser's Navy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ad3Z71TDw8

5. "Deutschlandlied" (German Anthem - traditional arrangement and words), performed by Heino; The music was composed by Josef Hayden in 1797 for his "Emperor Quartet." The lyrics, including "Deutschland ueber Alles..." were composed much later by August Heinrich Hoffmann von Fallersleben in 1841. The cry "Germany, Germany over all" was a rallying cry of the revolutionaries of March 1848 (against the conservative small principalities) calling for a unified Germany, a "Deutschland." It became the German National Anthem in 1922. A more modern, perverse perspective on the lyrics emerged that they must represent the spirit of German world military domination, and are therefore offensive. Consequently, since 1945, only the last stanza is officially sung http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB-whApXYXk

6. "Gruss an Kiel" Marsch by Friedrich Spohr, 1864 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdigXYUjcHw

7. "Heut' geht es an Bord," (Today We Are Boarding). An old song from the Austro-Hungarian Navy (yes, they had Adriatic ports) which became popular in Germany http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHSQCauoKiY

8. "Ich hab Heimweh nach St. Pauli," (I'm homesick for St. Pauli on the Reeperbahn...Hamburg). Freddy Quinn, 1963 (Sung on the waterfront in NYC) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNtuU0VPi20

9. "Im Hamburg sagt man tschuess," by Heidi Kabel. The most famous Hamburg song, Bismarck was built in Hamburg by Blohm und Voss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQZPMlDQpcM

10. "J 'Attendrai" (I will wait), Rina Ketty http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JricRnvpcmw

11. "La Paloma, ade," Hals Albers film clip 1944 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOInn_N5hLw

12. "Lili Marlene," Lale Andersen. Lale first recorded a gentle version of the song in 1938. Herr Goebbels did not like the song's wistful "lost love" sound, which he considered bad for soldier morale, and the Propaganda Ministry attempted to suppress the original song. They did not succeed. In 1942, Andersen was ordered (against her desire as an artist) to record a "militarized" version with trumpet, drum, and male chorus, and that is the most familiar "original" recording. This later Andersen recording from 1968, is a gentler rendition, possibly approximating her 1938 version. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp2qzmQBRGM

13. "Marinemarsch Panzerschiff Deutschland" (Navy March, Cruiser Deutschland) by Erich Schumann, 1937. No "Schlachtschiff Bismarck Marsch" was ever composed, so this is as close as you get. A popular navy march of the day, was probably performed by the Bismarck band on some occasion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NJow3Lj9Zw

14. "Muss i' Denn" Traditional German Navy "farewell, putting-to-sea on a long cruise" song. Oddly, when Bismarck left the wharf at Gotenhafen at bout 1200 hours on 17 May, 1941, the fleet band on the upper deck struck up this tune. It was probably an unintentional and unauthorized security breach that may have signaled to British spies that "Rheinuebung" (Exercise Rhine) was commencing. This recording is from the "Das Boot" soundtrack by Klaus Doldinger. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxdoqJ4iFog

15. "Nimm uns mit Kapitaen auf die Reise," Heino. Traditional, popular German sailor song. "Captain, take us on your voyage," http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFKRP-oL8Oc

16. "Seeadler" (Sea Eagle) Marsch, ? Composer, Possibly named after Imperial Navy ship "SMS Seeadler,"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tflFwYUc3Bw

17. "Sink The Bismarck" by Johnny Horton http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Ufc2hI4FM

18. "Unser Kameraden" Medly of traditional German folk-hiking-marching songs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=053wt1SkKHw

19. "Unsere Marine" Marsch, composed by Richard Thiele (1847-1903) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oG0msF_qc8

20. "Wir sind Kamaraden auf See," (We Are Comrades of the Sea) Robert Kussel 1938; Effectively the "Anchors Aweigh" of the German Navy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_De3HK2dWoc

NAMEPLATES and CRESTS FOR DISPLAY:

1. modellschlachtschiffe.de [/b][/color]See above customer report under FLAGS.[/b][/color]

These nameplates are handsome, but fairly expensive, and small in size. For example, a listed 9 cm X 2 cm plate is only 3.5 X 3/4 inches in size.

2, viewtopic.php?f=2&t=151880#p577009

PAINTS (Pre-mixed Kriegsmarine colors):

1. Lifecolor Paints (acrylic). Kriegsmarine Set 1 covers surface ships in the standard pre-war and Baltic colors,
http://www.internethobbies.com/lipasetkrset.html

2, Revell of Germany Paints: Supposedly these paints cannot be shipped to the USA or Canada.
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... revell.htm

3. Vallejo World War II Naval color equivalents http://www.ipmsswamp.com/files/VallejoW ... alents.pdf

4. White Ensign Models Colourcoats (enamel) https://www.whiteensignmodels.com/c/Kri ... ours/50/1/

PAINT CHARTS AND PAINT CHIPS:

Urban's Color Reference Charts

1. Federal Standard Colors

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... rts_fs.htm

2. Conversion chart Humbrol >>> Other http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorchart ... umbrol.htm

3. Kriegsmarine paint chips: http://www.shipcamouflage.com/kreigsmarine.htm

1/200 BISMARCK / TIRPITZ PHOTOETCH SETS AND SITES:

1. Eduard Models

1/200 Bismarck Set 1 - Lifeboat Set: http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/Phot ... 1-200.html

1/200 Bismarck Set 2 - Railings
http://www.eduard.com/store/Eduard/Phot ... 1-200.html

2. KA Models Mk-1 Productions

http://www.ka-models.com/index.php?rout ... uct_id=545 The Mk-1 Design sets are available as subsets, or the massive Dx Pack. The latter sells for $200.00 - $250.00 in hobby sites or E-bay.

3. http://www.Modellschlachtschiffe.de CAUTION: See above customer report.
Many unique items. Small, handcrafted production source. Order to receipt time advertised as "may be 4-6 weeks."
VIDEOS:

1. Good video photo-documentary. (Wilhelm does not necessarily agree with expressed opinions).http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJOKdn_TCq4

2. Large series of Bismarck wreck videos...invaluable to modelers! http://www.youtube.com/channel/UClVlyPq ... tQw/videos

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

1.) Misprint in KA-Models Mk-1 instructions calls for removal of four forward AA platforms on 1/200 Trumpeter Bismarck part Z-1. DON'T DO THIS! viewtopic.php?f=59&t=149456&start=40#p575769

WEBSITES: See next page in this post

[Timmy C]

It's probably better situated in the CASF Bismarck thread: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4696

[Wilhelm]

It's probably better situated in the CASF Bismarck thread: viewtopic.php?f=47&t=4696

Dear Timmy:

I respectfully disagree.

I looked at that 40-page-long "Calling All Ship Fans - Bismarck / Tirpitz" thread. The title alone, indicates the breadth of contents. Specific information on RESOURCES available to 1/200 Bismarck / Tirpitz builders (by an encyclopedic listing) will simply be "buried" in that variegated thread. For example, that thread starts with a 1/350 Bismarck build review. There is even material in there about 1/700 scale kits. I'm not talking here about rehashing Bismarck history in a thread (because I'm a "fan"), but about assembling a very specific modeler's resource list dedicated to a current, very popular modeling topic, that can be accessed by simply clicking a link.

If I had my way, there would be a "TOPIC" level RESOURCE thread for 1/200 Bismarck / Tirpitz builders

If a 1/200 Bismarck / Tirpitz resource list can't be located or accessed easily, it won't be readily retrievable or useful to anybody. Hence, my concept not of a post, but of a dedicated, titled, THREAD (or, even better, a TOPIC) that can be found quickly by everyone, like an encyclopedic list. This would not be seeking discussion, or the intricacies of a build, or "kudos" between builders, or "fan" discussion, but the mutual building-up of a resource databank in one place.

In fact, I can envision heavy editing of such a THREAD or TOPIC by moderators where posts wander away from the resource list concept. The resource tool needs to be kept clean and effective.

It's a different perspective...a shared TOOL quickly accessable to people with an identical NEED.

[Timmy C]

Nope. Just as modelers in 1/350 and 1/700 can use the Search function in the Bismarck thread, so, too, can 1/200 modelers, especially if you were to put everything in a single post in that thread.

It is also possible to link to individual posts within a thread in case you wish to point someone to your post in the future. Simply click the post's subject and the URL at the top will change to reflect it.

Quite frankly, this was the purpose of the CASF forum - to contain a repository and archive of information on the real ships as well as the accuracy and detailing issues of kits (but, of course, not to host works-in-progress). There is no other section on the forum for what you are seeking to post.

[Wilhelm]

Well, I regard this activity as an expenditure of my own time for the benefit of everyone. I could be working away on my own kit build now. But, I actually enjoy sharing assembled, valuable information for free! Others might enjoy sharing, too.

I invite the opinion of others about the concept of building up a discrete, labeled, accessable RESOURCE database. If I search "Bismarck" or even "1/200 Bismarck" in the Forum, how much irrelevant material to a RESOURCE LISTING will appear, Timmy? A lot.

Perhaps the best thing to do is poll others on this concept for a few days. Let's see what Forum members think about a labeled resource database.

Change is always difficult...but it can be very rewarding.

If I'm forced to "bury the data" somewhere in a large topic as an ordinary post, I'll probably discontinue my effort. I'd rather build my model than type away on an unseen community project.

[Channell]

I tried to do this last year in the main forum (plus a list of errors on the kit that should be addressed for those looking to go "all out" on their Bismarck) but I guess that forum section purges threads after a short time.

Whilem is right though, there is a HUGE amount of interest for this kit (and yes, it's becoming borderline nauseous, especially if you aren't interested in the kit) and searches require hours of digging through fluff on dozens of threads to get any information.

I for one think it's worthwhile, maybe as a "sticky" on the main forum or a thread devoted to the kit itself instead of the ship somewhere on the forum. If the mods will give it a good home I'd be happy to contribute too.

[npb748r]

I agree, a good idea for a thread. I have the DX pack plus a load of stuff from Modellschlachtschiffe.de which is brilliant and contains a load of PE not in the DX pack like the hull vents. If you do order from them you will need to contact them about payment before anything is dispatched (I paid via paypal) but you need to approach them, there is no instruction on payment when you order. I used google translator and exchanged emails in German even though I don't understand the language - seemed to work, it took a few weeks from order to delivery. Would happily recommend his stuff.

Keep up the good work

ta

neil

[Wilhelm]

Thanks Channell and Neil, both.

I think I'll create a new ERRORS section and a new WARNINGS section to address serious problems like the misprinted Mk-1 Instruction sheet that suggests the builder should cut away eight AA platforms instead of the intended four.

Please keep coming with your suggestions, everybody, and if they are pertinent to the Trumpeter 1/200 Bismarck, I'll include them in my post at the top of this thread, where they can be printed out for your use.

[Channell]

I'm finding out the Mk1 instructions really just plain suck; many of the PE vents aren't numbered on the instructions, leaving you having to guess which one goes where among the dozen or so different sizes. I chiseled and sanded off virtually all my kit vent moldings beforehand so I've got a bit of a challenge ahead of me... it might be wiser to do them one at a time to match the vents as you go.

[Wilhelm]

1/200 BISMARCK / TIRPITZ MODELER'S SHARED LIST - CONTINUED PAGE 2

WEBSITES:

1. http://www.kbismarck.com/

2. http://www.bismarck-class.dk/index.html

3. http://3dhistory.de/wordpress/?page_id=4 Be sure to check out the downloadable "Hi-res drawings!"

4. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bismarck_(Schiff,_1939) German language

5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_battleship_Bismarck English language

6. http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/cross-s ... 363707276/ German Government Archives. Search under "Schlachtschiff Bismarck" if necessary and enjoy almost 400 historic photos of the Bismarck

1/200 BISMARCK WOOD DECKS

1. Artwox http://artwox.com/index.php?document_srl=7541

2. KA-Models Mk1 Productions:
http://www.ka-models.com/index.php?rout ... uct_id=541

[Channell]

Dont forget the German goverment archives:

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/cross-s ... 363707276/

Search under "Schlachtschiff Bismarck" if necessary and enjoy almost 400 historic photos of the Bismarck!

[Wilhelm]

Dont forget the German goverment archives:

http://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/cross-s ... 363707276/

Search under "Schlachtschiff Bismarck" if necessary and enjoy almost 400 historic photos of the Bismarck!

Ja, natuerlich Herr Channell! Vielen dank fuer Sein Vorschlag!

[hymnHim]

I am glad that you have opened this thread. Neil, how are the vents? Did you order anything else from them? Ive debated on 3 deluxe kits, MK1 which is available now and two that are supposed to be offered within a month or so, one from Pontos and one from Artwox. I talked to the guys at freetime hobbies and decided to wait for the Artwox kit. I preordered it about 3 weeks ago and I will post pics and a decent review of it as soon as I get it in, which I hope is soon...cant stand waiting . Also I have been looking for two books on the Bismarck by Josef Kaiser, Das original and Das Modell, if anyone has a lead on these please let me know, I sure would appreciate it.

[npb748r]

Hi, the vents are great, slightly larger than the moulded version on the hull and far more than the kit has depicted. For the water intakes I cut out the plastic but the other vents I didn't. Having painted the lower hull there's clearly no need to remove the plastic for the smaller vents as you can't see it. Behind the larger water intakes I simply stuck a bit of plastic card about 1 cm in from the vent and painted it black. Looks great to my eyes !. Other stuff I got from them included the screw protectors, boat booms, couple of name plates for the stand, life rafts, the national eagle symbol but I have no idea if it goes on the boat and the bismarck emblems, again, no idea if they should go on the boat however they look great so I might stick them on there somewhere anyway (as you can tell, I;m not from the rivet counter side of the hobby, I build the kits for pleasure and I'm not that worried about being 100% accurate, more interested in the end result looking good.

Happy modelling !!

[Wilhelm]

Other stuff I got from them included...the national eagle symbol but I have no idea if it goes on the boat and the bismarck emblems, again, no idea if they should go on the boat however they look great so I might stick them on there somewhere anyway (as you can tell, I;m not from the rivet counter side of the hobby, I build the kits for pleasure and I'm not that worried about being 100% accurate, more interested in the end result looking good.

Happy modelling !!

The bow shields (Wappen), nameplates, and eagles ("Hoheitsabzeichen"...literal "glory emblem") were removed from the Kriegsmarine fleet with the outbreak of war in 1939. Apparently a thin attempt to camouflage German warships, or for scrap metal for the war effort (?). "Admiral Graf Spee" was caught at sea when war broke out, so she carried her peacetime Kriegsmarine regalia into the Battle of the River Platte in December, 1939. Her "Hoheitsabzeichen" has been recovered from her wreck and is on display in a museum in Montevideo, Uruguay. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... Ag&dur=277

Bismarck was not commissioned into service until 24 August, 1940. She never wore the peacetime Kriegsmarine regalia. If you build her like that, you choose to deviate a bit from strict historical fact. However, artistically, your model may be all the more striking! Nice that you can permit yourself the LIBERTY to do as you please!

[hymnHim]

I would like to add a couple of books that are incredible, and have helped me develop a plan for rigging the ship and have the very best drawings I have seen so far. They are out of print, but if you can get your hands on them they are great. AJ Press #15 through #18 Bismarck and Tirpitz. I also have #1 Bismarck which is a great resource. I have spent many weeks researching the rigging on the Bismarck, and the drawings in these publications are the best I have seen. Definite must haves, IMHO.

[BobaFettSlave_1]

WEM colour coats should be added to the list of paints. They're very nice.

[NigelR32]

Has anyone else ordered parts from modellschlachtschiffe.de? I have made an order worth �47.50 and have paid via Paypal.

I have emailed and have received no response whatsoever, not even an electronic receipt?

Am I alone, or have others experienced the same with this company?

[Channell]

Has anyone else ordered parts from modellschlachtschiffe.de? I have made an order worth �47.50 and have paid via Paypal.

I have emailed and have received no response whatsoever, not even an electronic receipt?

Am I alone, or have others experienced the same with this company?

I think they only speak German and from what's being said around the forum, getting them to do pay pal or even ship outside of Germany has been like pulling teeth. Wilhelm has been successful getting stuff from them here to the USA, check his build for more info.

[NigelR32]

Has anyone else ordered parts from modellschlachtschiffe.de? I have made an order worth �47.50 and have paid via Paypal.

I have emailed and have received no response whatsoever, not even an electronic receipt?

Am I alone, or have others experienced the same with this company?

I think they only speak German and from what's being said around the forum, getting them to do pay pal or even ship outside of Germany has been like pulling teeth. Wilhelm has been successful getting stuff from them here to the USA, check his build for more info.

I realise what you are saying Jason, but the site has an English option for ordering and suggests paying via Paypal.

Edit:- I've just received a mail from them as I pressed submit!! They are very busy at the moment, and have promised to send my order by Tuesday. So, fear not, you can order in English and pay via Paypal. The Email I have just received is in English.