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1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road/TR)

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 3:19 pm
by Dan K
Yep, you read that correctly. A USN, not an IJN, build.

I�ve been planning to build a cage mast version of one of the Big Five ever since Trumpeter released its 1/700 Maryland kit back in 2013. Actually 2012, since I did see the sample kit on the Trumpeter table at the IPMS Nationals in Orlando. Very exciting. Now seems as good a time as any to build one.

It�s been more than 50 years since I first read my father�s copy of �Day of Infamy� (right next to �A Night To Remember� on the bookshelf). That book entranced me and introduced me to a whole side of WWII that I barely knew existed. I was as taken by the descriptions and photos of the American battlefleet and their fight as I was by those of the Japanese attackers. Building every BB on Battleship Row was beyond my skills back then; one could sort of modify the classic Revell Arizona to cover the Pennsylvanias and Nevadas, but that was about it. For me, anyway. But, I never lost my fascination for the standard battleships.

Originally, I thought I would build Maryland 1941. For some reason, she seems the epitome of this type to me. But, I wasn�t quite ready to tackle the oversized bulges of the kit, given the number of recent projects that I�ve worked on that required extensive re-working or scratch-building. I wanted to start with a build that looked to be fairly straightforward, without major corrections. Any improvements and upgrades could come from photo-etch and 3D printed parts.

I decided on California, since the kit seems very straightforward. Extras included a Five Star Photoetch set for Maryland (knowing that not everything could be used), replacement cage masts, tops, directors and small weapons from 3D Model Parts, a deck mask from Hunter, alternate photoetch from Tom�s, 14�/ 5.51�/ 5.25� brass barrels from Master Models, and the 5.25� weapons set from the Finemolds Nanodread line. I was curious about the various alternative weapons and figured I would just see which might be the best. The same will be true for catapults and fighting tops.

Further into the thread, I will go into a little more detail about certain aspects of the kits and builds that I think worth noting. For now, I just wanted to get the thread going, and display the current status of the builds.

I should mention that I ended up with two builds because I discovered that the waterline plate is 1mm too short to properly fair it to the hull without a ton of corrective work. I also found the styrene of the plate harder to work than expected. I was so frustrated by this first attempt that I bought a WeeVee kit (which has the same hull) in order to swap hulls. I cut the new waterline plate in half, faired it to the new hull, and filled in the gap with styrene strip.

But, I�m also very stubborn, and I ended up correcting the first hull to a satisfying point. Hence, two builds, and the purchase of a lot more aftermarket stuff. :cry_3: Both ships will be in Measure 1 using a custom mix of Tamiya colors, and I�ll share some thoughts on that as well. The decks are also covered with a custom paint mix with a wash.

In these pics, WeeVee is painted with the custom mix for modified 5-D, the one with a tinge of blue. It�s interesting how different lighting changes the color ever so slightly. The overhead photo is the most representative version of my 5-D mix as it appears to my eye.

California is wearing a base coat of XF-63 German Grey, which was the starting point for my mix, but isn�t really dark enough to my eye to use as 5-D.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 4:29 pm
by Quincy
A 1/350 Hiryu, now 1/700 USN ships????? I blame it on 2020!!!! :lol_3: In all seriousness, Dan, great work as always! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:




Bob Pink :wave_1:

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2020 8:02 pm
by MartinJQuinn
Quincy wrote:now 1/700 USN ships????? I blame it on 2020!!!!
Or, this caused 2020... :whistle:

Nice to see you finally kick start this thread.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 3:30 pm
by Dan K
Thx, guys. Yeah, my gyros are clearly off. Can't seem to shake it, though.

Here�s a couple of detail shots of the Five Star MD/WV set parts for the bulkhead that separates the upper and main decks. The Five Star set is fairly comprehensive, but the brass is very thin and easy to bend, particularly the railings. The additional compartment at the base of the bulkhead is well documented for WeeVee, but less so for CA. As I recently conjectured in the CASF Pre-War Big Five thread (viewtopic.php?f=47&t=30407&start=300#p903268 ), there seems to be something there, though it's not entirely clear what. I chose to duplicate the base as carried on West Virginia.

Because of the overhanging RDF platform on West Virginia, this bulkhead had to be detailed in place. On California, I was able to complete it separately and then slip it into place and glue solid. A set of lower ladders will be installed later.

I also gussied up the vents sitting to either side of the #3 barbette on West Virginia. (California�s are not complete just yet.) Interestingly, those on WeeVee appeared to have been much taller than the other sisters, a detail that Pit-Road/Trumpeter got right.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2020 9:01 pm
by taskforce48
MartinJQuinn wrote:Or, this caused 2020...
:lol_spit_1:

Eagerly awaiting more of this Dan! A builder of your talent tackling these lovely battle wagons... will be poetry in plastic.

Matt

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 3:07 am
by marijn van gils
Subscribed!

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:55 am
by Dan K
Progress has been slow but steady. I focused next on some of the deck equipment, vents, ladders, turrets, brass barrels, and the catapult for #3 turret. I used the Five Star catapults for both ships though, truth be told, there were subtle differences in the trestle support structure used for the Tennessee class versus that of the Colorados. I also considered using the fine version from the Tom�s US Early Battleship fret, but that unit is better suited for the earlier standard battleships. The FS catapult was not a perfect fit for either type turret. Some of the underlying brass had to be cut away to fit properly, though the cut can�t be seen.

The FS unit is very nicely done, but missing the piston and brake buffer assembly. So, I scratch-built something that looked somewhat like those components.

I suppose now is a good time to point out that the FS instructions are not up on the same level as the parts themselves. There are many components that are provided for in the PE set but are simply not referred to in the instructions. I�ve no idea why. Other assemblies are incompletely labeled. It�s a bit frustrating. Among the components were a couple of flywheels that I used for the ends of the piston.

Among some other equipment tweaks was my arranging small hawser reels and paravanes on the #2 barbette as per the available photography of late 1941. West Virginia appeared to have stored paravanes only on its #2 barbette, while California had a mix of reels and paravanes using an asymmetrical arrangement. I went with some very small Pit-road NE series reels instead of fashioning completely new ones from wire.

I also noticed that California�s film projection shack atop the ventilator is actually sitting on short legs. I modified my part to match, though it�s not highlighted with a great shot.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:59 am
by Dan K
Everything on hand was then painted and attached.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 12:36 pm
by Vladi
Looking really good, Dan! Fingers crossed :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:20 pm
by Dan K
WeeVee's basic bridge structure is ready for paint.

I used the FiveStar parts where possible, plus a few tweaks. The FS set has a rear bulkhead for use at the rear base of the superstructure, but I ended up not using it. Initially, because the FS set is not really accurate with regard to the shape of the platforms back there. The kit itself has a more accurate layout, just no detail. I ended up using the FS platforms anyway. I can't even explain why at this point.

Other things, like the flag bags are not completely accurate in shape, either, but I just went with these. I did add a protruding line of railing at the top of flag bags so as to have a solid surface to tie off halyards against.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2020 12:45 pm
by Dan K
And funnels....

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:38 pm
by Dan K
Some quick updates:

I forgot to point out that I modified the aft end of the signal bridge compartment. These ships often rigged up canvas sun shades over the aft portion of this deck. However, outside of a solid header, everything else was just canvas and rope. As the PR/Trumpeter beauty shot shows, they chose to mold the aft portion of the signal bridge solid. I basically just cut away everything but the header.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:42 pm
by Dan K
I mixed a satisfying custom mix for the 5-L paint. At which point, everything on hand for WeeVee up to the top of the rangefinder platform, excepting the 5" AA directors, was then painted and attached.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 1:45 pm
by Dan K
I then tackled the Five Star main boat racks that were erected between the two funnels. I had high hopes going into these, but these particular structures just might be the worst, most difficult PE experience I�ve ever dealt with. With only two views of the completed structure, the instructions are utterly useless. The. Worst. Ever.

This was a brutally frustrating experience, as the PE is extremely flimsy. Frankly, it was a f*&^)@(%)!$#@%#king exercise in utter frustration. It took me a whole weekend to complete two structures, one for each ship. The only saving grace here is that they will be covered with ship�s boats.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 2:15 pm
by MartinJQuinn
She looks great Dan. Regarding the PE...glad to see even "the master" has his moments. :heh:

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2020 4:33 pm
by taskforce48
She looks fantastic Dan!
Dan K wrote:The only saving grace here is that they will be covered with ship�s boats.
Seems a shame that such hard work is going be unseen.

Looking forward to more,

Matt

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2020 8:03 am
by Dan K
Thanks, gents.

I suppose that a full complement of boats might not be necessary...........

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2020 12:46 am
by Richard Durham
They look great! Hope that you get to show them off in Las Vegas next summer! Take care, Rich

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:41 pm
by Dan K
I hope we can all make it out to Las Vegas next summer. Thx, Rich.

California�s bridge arrangements threw me for a loop at first take. I hadn�t realized she was configured as a flagship. Once properly oriented, I began to build it. A few things of note about the kit vs. the ship:

This kit, plus many of the 1/350 California resin kits, have a large, rectangular air intake molded onto the sides of the front superstructure �pillar�. This detail is erroneous. There�s just a bulkhead extension, or girder in place there. The air intakes for California and Tennessee are located in the same place as the Colorados. The difference between classes is in the number and design of the apertures. The earlier class has openings on two bulkheads. In California�s case, there were covers that were opened to a variable extent. In Tennessee�s case, there was a much larger set of shrouds placed over the openings.

Once I scratch-built those vents, I worked on the various bridge levels. I cut openings for access ladders, then I scratch-built bulkheads and window frames for the Signal Bridge.

Re: 1/700 West Virginia 1941 & USS California 1941 (Pit-Road

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:44 pm
by Dan K
I modified the Five Star Colorado class PE to match the large windows on the Navigating Bridge. The two classes are similar in both regards, but not exactly the same. I also utilized the conning tower PE as best I could; this conning tower is larger in circumference and shape than WeeVee/Maryland's.