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1/400 Aircraft Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 6:41 am
by Dave Rowe
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I thought that I had better post some pictures of my build so far.
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First bits of resin fitted
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Both the quarterdeck and cable deck? (I think that's the term, I've been building too many AFVs in recent years) will have some scratch built details added. The cable deck will only get some rudimentary bits and pieces but it's all good practise for the scratch building business.
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The bow also required some alteration from the original Heller version
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More soon.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:02 am
by kidcurrie42
Hello Dave,
She is coming along nicely there, look forward to seeing more :thumbs_up_1: :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:

Happy Modeling

John

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:08 pm
by Roger Torgeson
I�ll be following your build with a lot of interest as I�ve had the kit in my stash for almost 9 years; I received it from a friend and a fellow countryman of yours but due to a lack of decent detail drawings or reference photographs, I�ve not been willing to build it. I can see where that may very well change now. Are you going to be using any of the L�Arsenal 1/400 aircraft that are available?

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:39 pm
by Dave Rowe
Thanks John and Roger, much appreciated.
Regarding reference for the ship, these sites are pretty useful Roger
http://www.vlaggeschipsmaldeel5.nl/
http://www.hmskareldoorman.hyves.nl/
http://members.chello.nl/~m.nuijten1/
The first is probably the best, there's even some plans if you dig deep enough :smallsmile:

Not sure about the L'Arsenal aircraft yet, the kit's seem pretty good.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 12:50 pm
by JWintjes
:big_eyes:

How did you manage to get one of these? I've been looking rather hard for quite some time now....

Great build so far, will definitely follow it! :thumbs_up_1:

Jorit

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:48 pm
by Burkhardt
Yes Jorit,


I need the kit for my 1:400 collection tooooooooo :heh:

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:58 am
by Lucky
Hi Dave

On this kit there will be a lot of work!
But I see that go well :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

Ciao :wave_1: :wave_1:
Luciano

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:44 pm
by Dave Rowe
Hi Luciano
It's true that this kit will require much work. I am currently working on scratch-built gallery decks, thank you for the vote of confidence :thumbs_up_1:

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 5:59 pm
by Guido
Hi, Dave!
I'll be looking forward to see more of your work!
I like the subject you've chosen very much!
... and I have to say that many will envy you for having such great photo reference at hand! Man these pages are great!
Cheers,
Guido

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:49 am
by Dave Rowe
Hi Guido and Jorit. Thanks for the kind words guys.
Jorit sorry I overlooked your post. I got the kit from of all places http://www.aviationmegastore.com

Dave.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:57 am
by JWintjes
Dave,

thanks for the answer - apparently the kit itself is out, but they have a conversion on offer that looks tempting!

Jorit

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 12:30 pm
by Finland's Jonne
Karel Doorman?

I have never heard about it and I'm surprised, that Holland has also aircraft carrier!

Its so interesting to me and the model sounds so good, when in bow and in stern can see something...

I'm interesting to see more about your work, Dave!

I will to investigate about Karel Doorman, I have now a bit of information, when she was Brit's HMS Venerable and then Dutch sold she to Argentine 1969 and renamed ARA Veinticinco de Mayo and she serviced for Argentine over 30 years!

Joe

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:19 am
by mitchell300
Finland's Jonne wrote:Karel Doorman?

I have never heard about it and I'm surprised, that Holland has also aircraft carrier!

Its so interesting to me and the model sounds so good, when in bow and in stern can see something...

I'm interesting to see more about your work, Dave!

I will to investigate about Karel Doorman, I have now a bit of information, when she was Brit's HMS Venerable and then Dutch sold she to Argentine 1969 and renamed ARA Veinticinco de Mayo and she serviced for Argentine over 30 years!

Joe
In matter of fact the netherlands (my country) had 4 of them.
Two where merchant carriers in ww2.
After ww2 one a escort carrier, Ex nairnia from the uk (karel doorman 1)
Then after the cve we had hr ms karel doorman 2, the pride of the fleet and the largest ship to be in service from the netherlands.
Soon it will be the 2nd biggest when the JLOS/JSS is in active service.
The karel doorman is an ex colusus class aircraft carrier.
Bought from the uk 1948 in active service in may 1948.
Angled deck refit in 1955 to 1958.
Sold after an engine fire (1968)(my grandpa whas engineer at that moment) to argentine.
She entered service as ARA de mayo (v2) (i quess) there, and whas decomissioned in 1997, scrapped at india in 1999 until 2000/1

I just said this out of my head :heh:
My grandpa whas a veteran wich served on her and the legendary zeven provincien class cruisers.
The zeven provincien is currently in Peru navy and the last full gunned cruiser left.
Oh i miss my grandpa :S

DAVE ROWE, you can better make a hell of a ship out of this :P
And when your planning to sell it, knock on my door plz.
Because i cant find any karel doorman kits on the world thats left unbuild/build.
And im desperite to have one :S
To bad i s**k at scratchbuilding.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:57 am
by Dave Rowe
Hi mitchell300, respect to your Grandpa :thumbs_up_1:
I promise to do my very best with this kit :smallsmile: I'm currently rebuilding the gallery deck sections so I can add some extra detail to those areas.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Karel Doorman

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:45 pm
by mitchell300
Dave Rowe wrote:Hi mitchell300, respect to your Grandpa :thumbs_up_1:
I promise to do my very best with this kit :smallsmile: I'm currently rebuilding the gallery deck sections so I can add some extra detail to those areas.
Sounds good :D
I go ferther searching for some kd kits :heh:
If they stil exist :D
But anyway if i find one i wont build it, i wait until i got the skills to make it very decent.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:12 pm
by mitchell300
Just a weird question here.
Is it maby possible to make a mall from your kit?
So that you can make more out of one.
You used the hull already , thats ok.
but from the rest its stil possible, and maby the outer sides of the hull.
This kit is SUPER rare, and i cant find any.
And i want to make one for my grandma (or myself, depends if she wants it)

Mitch ;)

Re: 1/400 Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:37 pm
by Dave Rowe
Mitch I've just checked the site where I bought the kit and they're still showing two in stock
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/?shopi ... &art=51613
Drop them a line mate, they're from your neck of the woods.

Dave

There's also this (I think this is what Jorit referred to)
http://www.aviationmegastore.com/hrms-k ... &art=51615
I believe this is the resin parts only, no Heller donor kit (not sure about the p.e. or decals)

Re: 1/400 Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:15 am
by mitchell300
Im going to buy it m8 :)
Tomorrow i will order it, i thank you very much m8.
And i wont build it yet.
Im stil a beginner and soon i dont got the time.
But now i got a question.
How much do you think there's stil left in the world?
Because i found one 2 years ago in the loca shop here, and after one day it whas ghone.
On ebay i had two, and both where ghone in like a week for 300+ dollar.
They are hotcake's and rare.
I think im going to duplicate this kit :)(for myself)
Edit:
http://www.navalmodels.com/Schepen%20Ko ... Marine.htm
Mw models, is that the rare kit that you have?
Or is that a fake resin kit?

Mitch ;)

Re: 1/400 Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:45 am
by Dave Rowe
No problems Mitch, glad to help. Keep it in the stash until you're ready for it, there's no rush to build it after all.
I would say that the MW Models kit is the same kit, their name is mentioned on the box lid and also in the instructions. I must admit that I was very surprised to find it on the Aviation Megastore site, so I couldn't begin to guess how many are still knocking about.

Cheers
Dave.

Re: 1/400 Carrier Hr.Ms. Karel Doorman

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:50 pm
by mitchell300
Dave Rowe wrote:No problems Mitch, glad to help. Keep it in the stash until you're ready for it, there's no rush to build it after all.
I would say that the MW Models kit is the same kit, their name is mentioned on the box lid and also in the instructions. I must admit that I was very surprised to find it on the Aviation Megastore site, so I couldn't begin to guess how many are still knocking about.

Cheers
Dave.
If i whas a millionair i would give you like 5000 euro :P
just because you helped me finding this kit.
If you where a girl i would kiss you over and over.
But now i just want to give you a handshake :heh:
Any progress on your model?
Im saving every picture you will show us, just to learn from it and to see how i have to do mine.
Thanks again :P
Greetingz
Mitch ;)

*edit*
OOOh, the man that sells the kit says its the heller arromanches whit resin parts to convert.
Now im feeling bad.
Is it a good idea to take it?
Or not?