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SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Hmm, time for a poke. Everything ok with you Jim???
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
I hope you are doing fine ... we wait for an update, please.
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Thank you for your concern and encouragement!
alas I have had faaaar too much work in my 1/1 scale work-
-and as such virtually all my modelling actievery --other than on-line looking ..
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has been suspended in-voluntarily !!
==> coupled with I having been away on Holiday for 2 weeks...
and on our return ....hot and sticky weather here in the UK....
( with a south-facing modelroom !!! )
... it has all stalled a bit.
I am rather hoping to get back in the saddle later this week--either on Hindenburg or Jeanned'arc --or both!!
Jim Baumann
alas I have had faaaar too much work in my 1/1 scale work-
-and as such virtually all my modelling actievery --other than on-line looking ..
has been suspended in-voluntarily !!
==> coupled with I having been away on Holiday for 2 weeks...
and on our return ....hot and sticky weather here in the UK....
( with a south-facing modelroom !!! )
... it has all stalled a bit.
I am rather hoping to get back in the saddle later this week--either on Hindenburg or Jeanned'arc --or both!!
Jim Baumann
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Very glad to hear that Jim.
Hope you had a good holiday,(on a boat was it
).
Well we all stall sometimes with modeling for other commitments
.
Hope you had a good holiday,(on a boat was it
Well we all stall sometimes with modeling for other commitments
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
JIM BAUMANN wrote:
I am rather hoping to get back in the saddle later this week--either on Hindenburg or Jeanned'arc --or both!!.....
Hello Jim
both ,for see beautiful things!!welcome back to "business"
best regards
Nicolas
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Wow, good news after all. For a moment I was thinking something bad had happened, Jim left without notification and such a long break in posting, that can't be normal. Anyway glad to see you're back, we're all eagerly waiting for any progress.
As real efficient modeller I'm sure you put on a thick coat of gel before you left, so that, now with the good weather, all is dry and ready for painting? Right?

As real efficient modeller I'm sure you put on a thick coat of gel before you left, so that, now with the good weather, all is dry and ready for painting? Right?
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Back in gear now...
gave the base a guide coat of paint...
then infilled more leveling where needed....==> with white glue--a medium I understand and trust!
It s now drying-- more thin coats...
Its a-rolling again..
JB
gave the base a guide coat of paint...
then infilled more leveling where needed....==> with white glue--a medium I understand and trust!
It s now drying-- more thin coats...
Its a-rolling again..
JB
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
HI Jim
I'm really curiously to see the result,welcome back
regards
nicolas
I'm really curiously to see the result,welcome back
regards
nicolas
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Well thats looking good
Is that watered down PVA or strait form as I am trying to make water for a river on another project and that looks just the ticket.
Great to see you back on the lake again Jim B.
Is that watered down PVA or strait form as I am trying to make water for a river on another project and that looks just the ticket.
Great to see you back on the lake again Jim B.
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Such an awesome dio on so many levels. can't wait to see it finished.
Martin
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
What MJQ said.
Regards, Dave
Regards, Dave
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
at a very slow pace albeit--there is progress being made....
I apply a very very thin coat of white glue and or varnish and then a very very thin coat of paint approximately in 5 day cycles...
the main issue is to obtain a reasonably sharp demarcation of water to vertical--as to avoid the meniscus attempting to creep up the sides...
So far using a Stanley blade, scalpel and a steady hand and nerve are rendering acceptable results
herewith a coupe of snaps from last night before a another layer of thin paint went on
I will add further layers of paint to give a bit more opacity to the water--especially towards the stern.
In side elevation -as opposed to the overhead view-- there is no sense of translucence--which is as it should be!
I apply a very very thin coat of white glue and or varnish and then a very very thin coat of paint approximately in 5 day cycles...
the main issue is to obtain a reasonably sharp demarcation of water to vertical--as to avoid the meniscus attempting to creep up the sides...
So far using a Stanley blade, scalpel and a steady hand and nerve are rendering acceptable results
herewith a coupe of snaps from last night before a another layer of thin paint went on
I will add further layers of paint to give a bit more opacity to the water--especially towards the stern.
In side elevation -as opposed to the overhead view-- there is no sense of translucence--which is as it should be!
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Great work, Jim. I'd never have thought that this could be pulled off with acrylics.
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Jim,
Did you ever finish this?
Did you ever finish this?
Martin
"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
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"Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. Comes into us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday." John Wayne
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
not yet....
But I will get the opportunity to do so while Agincourt gets cast and the PE is designed ....
Jim Baumann
But I will get the opportunity to do so while Agincourt gets cast and the PE is designed ....
Jim Baumann
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Glad to see your still at it Jim on this very interesting project.

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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
My professional commitments have kept me away from the model work-bench for rather too long alas...
Inspired by George Pek's most excellent model of Derfflinger @ Scapa Flow in 1918...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=152855
I have been spurred on to complete my model of my Scapa Flow German ship...
and at the same time try and up my game to emulate Georges's attention to adding more fine detail
============================================================================================
First task was to make a plan of the work still to be carried out--considering that most of the ship was under water ....
it was astonishing how much work remains...
I first wanted to sort out the platform at the fwd funnel and crane derricks along with the smoke deflector plates above the searchlight The upper searchlight platform had a very complex support structure--
I decide that if I attempted to replicate it it would be clunky and overscale--so innovation was required
I took some Combrig gun support PE ( Henri IV) and using a push pin on a hard but yielding surface like a cutting mat ( in my case a post-it note pad to start the legs bending upward symmetrically--
the transferred it to a piece of soft foam to continue the leg bending evenly
Once installed it looked approximately right once stretched sprue legs were attached it was quite convincing
Another troublesome aspect was replicating the life-rafts attached to the B turret
I took some more of the aforementioned Combrig PE--and cut it up into suitable squares-
-which when stacked three deep and glued to a watertight door , cut and filed to shape seemed to work well and look fairly sharp
Hindenburg had telescopic masts which could be lowered ( to be able pass under the bridges in the Wilhelm Kanal)
These masts were lowered during her time at Scapa
German ships of this era have a very distinctive arrangements of spreaders and yards--all of which are very thin and delicate ...
The aft mast had its top outer shell bent up of a piece of brass strip
The flat roof of which was made by spanning white gue across the gap to get a neat seal
Along with the boat crane pulleys( 1/700 aircraft wheels with sprue), hinge plates ( triangles of brass -2 x top and bottom)
spars and supporting struts--slowly the model is taking life...
Inspired by George Pek's most excellent model of Derfflinger @ Scapa Flow in 1918...
viewtopic.php?f=59&t=152855
I have been spurred on to complete my model of my Scapa Flow German ship...
and at the same time try and up my game to emulate Georges's attention to adding more fine detail
============================================================================================
First task was to make a plan of the work still to be carried out--considering that most of the ship was under water ....
it was astonishing how much work remains...
I first wanted to sort out the platform at the fwd funnel and crane derricks along with the smoke deflector plates above the searchlight The upper searchlight platform had a very complex support structure--
I decide that if I attempted to replicate it it would be clunky and overscale--so innovation was required
I took some Combrig gun support PE ( Henri IV) and using a push pin on a hard but yielding surface like a cutting mat ( in my case a post-it note pad to start the legs bending upward symmetrically--
the transferred it to a piece of soft foam to continue the leg bending evenly
Once installed it looked approximately right once stretched sprue legs were attached it was quite convincing
Another troublesome aspect was replicating the life-rafts attached to the B turret
I took some more of the aforementioned Combrig PE--and cut it up into suitable squares-
-which when stacked three deep and glued to a watertight door , cut and filed to shape seemed to work well and look fairly sharp
Hindenburg had telescopic masts which could be lowered ( to be able pass under the bridges in the Wilhelm Kanal)
These masts were lowered during her time at Scapa
German ships of this era have a very distinctive arrangements of spreaders and yards--all of which are very thin and delicate ...
The aft mast had its top outer shell bent up of a piece of brass strip
The flat roof of which was made by spanning white gue across the gap to get a neat seal
Along with the boat crane pulleys( 1/700 aircraft wheels with sprue), hinge plates ( triangles of brass -2 x top and bottom)
spars and supporting struts--slowly the model is taking life...
....I buy them at three times the speed I build 'em.... will I live long enough to empty my stash...?
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
IPMS UK SIG (special interest group) www.finewaterline.com
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
That is Incredible Jim, so realistic is that water now.
And to add even more detail!!!!.
Master at work is all I can say.
Cheers capt-P
And to add even more detail!!!!.
Master at work is all I can say.
Cheers capt-P
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Nice! I admire you guys working in 1:700. Only problem is that you surely need good glasses to be able to see the fine details.
(and as you know, I fancy detail!!)
Well done!
Stein
(and as you know, I fancy detail!!)
Well done!
Stein
Ultima ratio regum
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Re: SMS Hindenburg on the bottom....Scapa Flow--around 1925
Very nice work,and very interesting subject.Looking forward for more. 