by Andy G » Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:40 am
Ludwig wrote:hallo Andy,
You can do that , but what if the hull of the model (Heller) isn't correct?? You end up with a faulty hull , all that work(and money) for nothing.
regards,
Ludwig
Hi Ludwig,
I agree that there are issues with using commercial kits for scaling, but without access to the original plans there's a degree of faith that we have to accept with regards to
any secondary source...whether they're plans, kits, building on someone else's glassfibre hull, etc.
That said, the evidence from the plans listed at the start of this thread is seemingly enough to provide a good guide to the hull width at the deck, and the depth of each hull section. That's 50% of the hard work done already. For much of the hard part of the hull (the turn of the bilge, any under waterline flare) that you'd be relying on a kit for additional info in this instance, will, ultimately, be under water in a RC model.
Now
perhaps there's an argument (and it's one that, for example, Ron's using with his Moffet's bilge keels, and many others have done regarding rudder and prop sizes, even the draught) that we have to occasionally accept non-scale "fixes" because we can never scale water, yet still feel satisfied that we have a scale model.
Personally speaking, given the apparent quality of the plans detailed at the start of this thread, I'd be holding out to find good (as in confident) plans of the hull form that's missing - but if I
really wanted a Prinz Eugen, and this was all I could get/afford, then I'd use them, backed up by the method I mentioned earlier.
WAY back, I scaled up the Airfix 1/600th Warspite to 1/200th scale, and used it - the plastic model - as my sole guide to making an RC Warspite that, on reflection, must have been full of scaling errors and enlarged mistakes, but the overall effect was not a bad one. "Good semi-scale", I suppose.
Regards,
Andy
[quote="Ludwig"]hallo Andy,
You can do that , but what if the hull of the model (Heller) isn't correct?? You end up with a faulty hull , all that work(and money) for nothing.
regards,
Ludwig[/quote]
Hi Ludwig,
I agree that there are issues with using commercial kits for scaling, but without access to the original plans there's a degree of faith that we have to accept with regards to [i]any[/i] secondary source...whether they're plans, kits, building on someone else's glassfibre hull, etc.
That said, the evidence from the plans listed at the start of this thread is seemingly enough to provide a good guide to the hull width at the deck, and the depth of each hull section. That's 50% of the hard work done already. For much of the hard part of the hull (the turn of the bilge, any under waterline flare) that you'd be relying on a kit for additional info in this instance, will, ultimately, be under water in a RC model.
Now [i]perhaps[/i] there's an argument (and it's one that, for example, Ron's using with his Moffet's bilge keels, and many others have done regarding rudder and prop sizes, even the draught) that we have to occasionally accept non-scale "fixes" because we can never scale water, yet still feel satisfied that we have a scale model.
Personally speaking, given the apparent quality of the plans detailed at the start of this thread, I'd be holding out to find good (as in confident) plans of the hull form that's missing - but if I [i]really[/i] wanted a Prinz Eugen, and this was all I could get/afford, then I'd use them, backed up by the method I mentioned earlier.
WAY back, I scaled up the Airfix 1/600th Warspite to 1/200th scale, and used it - the plastic model - as my sole guide to making an RC Warspite that, on reflection, must have been full of scaling errors and enlarged mistakes, but the overall effect was not a bad one. "Good semi-scale", I suppose.
Regards,
Andy