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by **ARH** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:29 am

Thanks for that Andy, I was a little annoyed with Ingura not for posting the picture but for leaving off the text, the picture on its own made it look as though the vessel was out of shape, and not in its early stages of being built.
If I had posted something that was critical of the build I could have understood it, but pointing out that there was an alterative build on this board, I was only trying to be help full, is that not the name of the game at MW,s

by **Andy G** » Fri Apr 11, 2008 3:13 am

Tony & Kaiser wrote:I am like Andy, I actually am working on Pommern, just agonizingly slowly......I spend 49% of my time straining my eyes looking at enlarged period photos, and another 49% of my time standing in front of it, scratching my head and trying to figure out how to do it...Only 2% is actually doing it......

Ah...the delights of scratchbuilding!

I could, I suppose, build a kit out-of-a-box - but I'd find it a bit soulless, merely following instructions and using the materials provided. What ARH exemplifies on this board (and why I've loved following his builds) has been that when experience meets scrounging and is coupled with an eye for what looks good - he delivers.

Andy

by **Tony & Kaiser** » Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:21 pm

RNfanDan wrote: May I present: HMS Renown scratch conversion, begun circa 1982-83, a full quarter-century and four U.S. presidents ago.

Okay, you win.

I am like Andy, I actually am working on Pommern, just agonizingly slowly......I spend 49% of my time straining my eyes looking at enlarged period photos, and another 49% of my time standing in front of it, scratching my head and trying to figure out how to do it...Only 2% is actually doing it......

by **Andy G** » Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:33 am

RNfanDan wrote:Both you fine gentlemen are mere rookies at project stand-stills!

I prefer to think of myself as building slowly, rather than standing still. There's a difference! (I think the difference is that I know I'll get there - the Dreadnought is not put to one side and left alone if I have spare time).

Tony and Kaiser are beating me with their six years, but in my two years I'm still not near the water, not built anything above the decks other than the masts and boats, and there's no paint on the hull yet. My plans to make every vessel in the Grand Fleet, at this rate, will take me to until about 3508AD.

Andy

by **RNfanDan** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:44 pm

Both you fine gentlemen are mere rookies at project stand-stills!

May I present: HMS Renown scratch conversion, begun circa 1982-83, a full quarter-century and four U.S. presidents ago. I did manage to replace a main battery turret I lost somewhere along the way, which I tossed into the project's binbox about four years ago; other than that, it's no further along now than it was in 1984.

by **Tony & Kaiser** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:49 pm

Andy G wrote: Want to bet on that? Andy

I accept your challenge Andy! I laid my keel for SMS Pommern in the spring of 2002. After the making the basic hull, I jumped to building the funnels, decks, guns, etc, I am just now finally completing the hull. So I am on my sixth year.....

by **ingura** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:18 am

by **Andy G** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:44 am

Tony & Kaiser wrote:What I do admit to being, is the world's slowest ship model builder.

Want to bet on that?

Andy

by **ARH** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:57 pm

Well Ingura that really offends me , I dont mind you posting the picture, but to leave off the writing.

Hi Guys, As you can see from the bow shot still work to do on the hull.

The hull was just a flimsy piece of resin and paste , no guts, and like all bow shots not exactly square on,

by **Laurent** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:39 pm

ARH wrote:Hey guys, give him some credit, she said he reduced the frames to 96% to allow for the planking, that sounds right.

Hi again !

Sorry , I didn't see this ...

Consider I didn't say anything , all right ?

Regards ,

Laurent

by **ingura** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:31 pm

by **ARH** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:22 pm

Hey guys, give him some credit, she said he reduced the frames to 96% to allow for the planking, that sounds right.

by **Tony & Kaiser** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 5:16 pm

Laurent wrote:I'm surprised to see in the link provided by Ingura that the modeller doesn't count the thickness of the planking , the guy cuts the frames are they are drawn , but they should be thinner by the planking thickness ...just my thoughts ...Laurent

Hello Laurent, I am on here all the time, reading, enjoying, but do not post very often.

It is not accurate what you said. I spent a lot of time planning how to accomodate the exact thickness of the planks I cut. To quote myself from my web site,

How to Build a Battleship Model from Scratch:The S.M.S. Pommern wrote:Station Templates
"Plank on frame" seemed to be the standard for building a hull, so this is what I decided to do. I thought the frames were called "bulkheads" but they
seem to be referred to as "hull stations" so this is what I will call them. The sheet for the hull station templates was reduced to 96% of its original
size to account for the thickness of the planks I planned on using.

HERE is the page. What I do admit to being, is the world's slowest ship model builder.

by **RNfanDan** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:42 pm

...my apologies, Ingura, but I perceived your post as a slight toward Ron, a fellow that has done much for scratchbuilders and has never been one to withhold good ideas and advice.

by **Laurent** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:11 pm

I'm surprised to see in the link provided by Ingura that the modeller doesn't count the thickness of the planking , the guy cuts the frames are they are drawn , but they should be thinner by the planking thickness ...

just my thoughts ...

Laurent

by **Ted** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:19 pm

The Iron Duke thread is more for once someone's already started.

by **ARH** » Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:55 am

Ingura, Im not surgesting he does not go there, Im saying while he is here, Iron Duke is a good artical to look at.

by **ingura** » Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:09 pm

by **ARH** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 12:16 pm

Why go there, in scratch build there.s 15 pages of building IRON DUKE, pictures and text, it will give you more ideas.

by **ingura** » Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:33 am

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