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by DavidM » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:15 am

All I can suggest is keep trawling the internet and browsing second-hand bookshops, as you can get lucky sometimes.

For instance, I've been looking for the Revell Ark royal/Tribal for a while and turned up some on an internet shop for a very sensible price recently.

I have to admit I was given my copy of Burt's British Battleships for free.

by Guest » Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:40 pm

Another copy of Burt's "British Battleships of WWI" just sold for approx. $550 on eBay!

by Bruce Kapito » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:07 am

Hi Guys, There are two of these books on Ebay. Just go to Battleship under books. The last one sold for $ 301. Good Luck

BLK

by Laurence Batchelor » Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:52 am

I wouldnt mind Kenny but I wish he'd reply to my emails!!! lol!

Regards
the busted boy!

by kennylibben » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:15 pm

wr wrote:a! I have everyone expensive British warship book available but it would take too long to scan in so many pages!

I usually just email ppl what ships plans they need! Free of charge unfortunately!

Regards
Laurence
Dear Mr Batchelor
How are you?
Alan Raven[/quote]

BUSTED!

however i have a feeling someone is pulling your leg.

by bholderman » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:55 am

It looks like I ranted anyway, sorry.

Brad

by bholderman » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:55 am

No thats ok, copyright infiringement has gone so overboard in the last decade. Although, I understand some of the RIAA's position, their pursuit of infringement individuals has gone way overboard. There was a study done on Kazza users, it turns out the people with the largest "libraries" to download were the ones actually buying the music. In other words they were going after their only real customers.

Then there's software, If I can buy a used book why cant I buy used software (even though, I admit I am starting to see it).

I think it started with a basketball player who patented a specific move about a decade ago and started the "intellectual property" phenomena.

Aye, carumba.

Brad

by Laurence Batchelor » Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:29 pm

Hey Brad, no problem rant away buddy! lol

Cheers
Laurence

by bholderman » Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:01 pm

Lozza1981 wrote:Fine thank you Alan!

Am I breaking copyright law by scanning in from these books and emailing people free of charge what they need?

I usually do this as most modellers cant afford to buy these books!

I dont have the entire book scanned in, I scan what people tend to ask for!

Regards
Laurence Batchelor
I would think not since every library here in the United States has more than one copier for just this purpose. You are simply acting as a third party researcher. Besides, why then are used bookstores not illegal, aren't they reselling copyrighted material?

And speaking of which...ugh, I'm starting to rant.

Cheers,
Brad

by Cheesecake-Class Cruiser » Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:28 pm

I recently read an interesting article about a new form of publishing, the brainchild of some successful businessman I think...on demand printing direct from the publisher through a web service. I would think that such a system would be perfect for special interest books such as the ones being discussed here. Not only does it allow more authors to see their works published, it would prevent short printing runs and associated "hyper-inflation" of second-hand book prices while providing the author with a relatively constant income from his/her work. This would surely be better than the current situation of books selling for hundreds of pounds.

by Laurence Batchelor » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:34 pm

I've got no idea myself! but I feel there will be similarities with the US.

Perhaps wr will tell me!

BTW wr the photo's will be in the post tomorrow as I've just sealed the jiffy bag! So for the delay but I had printer problems!

Regards
Laurence

by TTTTTTTTTT » Tue Aug 30, 2005 1:31 pm

Lozza1981 wrote:Fine thank you Alan!

Am I breaking copyright law by scanning in from these books and emailing people free of charge what they need?

I usually do this as most modellers cant afford to buy these books!

I dont have the entire book scanned in, I scan what people tend to ask for!

Regards
Laurence Batchelor
Hello Laurence,

The laws may be different in the UK, but here in the US, it's acceptable to email/fax/mail a copy of an illustration from a book or even an article from a journal to another person, especially for scholarly or research purposes. The line is drawn at copying and sharing an entire book, or a large portion thereof, or an entire journal.
On a few occasions, I've heard of librarians making a copy of an entire work for some purpose, but only after having determined that the work was out of print, was unavailable on the used market, and attempts were made to contact the author(s) to get permission.
I'm curious to hear about what the rules in the UK are as I've heard they do differ somewhat.

Best regards,
Ted

by Laurence Batchelor » Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:44 am

Fine thank you Alan!

Am I breaking copyright law by scanning in from these books and emailing people free of charge what they need?

I usually do this as most modellers cant afford to buy these books!

I dont have the entire book scanned in, I scan what people tend to ask for!

Regards
Laurence Batchelor

by wr » Mon Aug 29, 2005 6:05 pm

a! I have everyone expensive British warship book available but it would take too long to scan in so many pages!

I usually just email ppl what ships plans they need! Free of charge unfortunately!

Regards
Laurence[/quote]

Dear Mr Batchelor
How are you?
Alan Raven

by Laurence Batchelor » Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:02 am

Good idea! I have every expensive British warship book available but it would take too long to scan in so many pages!

I usually just email ppl what ships plans they need! Free of charge unfortunately!

Regards
Laurence

by Cheesecake-Class Cruiser » Sun Aug 28, 2005 8:56 am

I had no idea that books printed as late as the 80s could go for so much!! It just seems wrong, especially if the author has the publishing rights but has maybe passed away.

Call me an evil pirate (something cool, like Red Corsair Rob) but if I happened upon one of these books I'd slap it into a pdf file before you could say "copyright infringement".

by Anonymous » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:54 pm

It's back ..... looks like it didn't sell for �350 ..... it's a buy now for �250 ......

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WDVW

:wave_1:

by Bruce Kapito » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:35 pm

And yet another one popped up today on that unmemtionable E auction site. The owner has a "buy it now" for 350 GBP. That's close to $ 700.00 Wow! I thought drugs were illegal.

by Timmy C » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:29 pm

Found this one on ebay! Good luck guys! http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 98774&rd=1

by Bruce Kapito » Sat Jun 25, 2005 7:12 pm

Hi Guys,

I was just about to post about the most recent sale on Ebay. I think the reason these books are going for so much is that they are indeed that good. In fact, I'd venture to say that if Ray Burt is still with us, I would plead with him to do a series on US battleships the same way he did the Royal Navy battleships. The Friedman, Dulin & Garzke, & Schimera books while quite excellent on the technical side, leave much to be desired as sources of references for modellers.

Also, given the whole new range of kits that have come out in the last few years and are announced to come out soon there is really no reference material that show good photographs of these ships available in one convenient location.

While I do love Navsource, its a pain in the neck researching the ships on the computer especially when govt sponsored archives show very few pictures in their valiant efforts to show as many ships as possible. And searching govt archives takes forever. Has anyone tried to get into the US National Archives on line? It's virtually impossible to find good pictures of let's say the USS New York, BB-34 yet easy to find tons on the USS Iowa, BB-61. I'll grant you there were prohibitions against taking pictures of USN ships after 1938 due to some law whose name escapes me at present but there are tons of officially sanctioned photos in the govt records. Some of them are breathtaking in detail like the Arizona's turrets being serviced.

Oh well, just throwing my oar into the water. If you have the funds and chance to either bid on ebay or find these books on line but already have them, please as a courtesy post them here. I can think of no better people who would value these books as much as we do.

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