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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Quincy » Sat Oct 08, 2022 7:33 am

Thank you Scott for this link! Very cool website!!


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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by reigels » Wed Oct 05, 2022 7:20 pm

She does not seem to be documented here (yet?).

https://sketchfab.com/WorldWideWreckBaselineProject

Interesting eye candy, however.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Quincy » Wed Oct 05, 2022 6:22 pm

Yes and no. This picture shows the engine skylight forward of the funnel. I have another picture from a diving website showing it aft of the funnel. The picture shows the ship at a sharp angle, kind of hard to see it very clearly though. I looked on the Imperial Navy Page showing the ship itself, and I�m kind of leaning towards the aft of the funnel, judging by the funnel, that is of the skylight. I know there are a couple of new books on Truk Lagoon that got released recently. Maybe they might have some new photos showing what I�m looking for? Thank you Mike. I appreciate your help.


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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Mike C » Tue Oct 04, 2022 11:46 pm

Quincy wrote:Does anyone have any good photos or line drawings of the IJN Kensho Maru that sunk at Truk Lagoon 1944? I�m particularly looking for a good overhead view, mostly regarding the funnel deck. I�m trying to find out if her engine room skylight was either forward or aft of her funnel. Any help would be most appreciated!


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Does this help? https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-jlaZ4v8yxyc/ ... 2BMaru.jpg

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Dan K » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:12 pm

Not I, sadly.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Quincy » Thu Sep 29, 2022 3:41 pm

Does anyone have any good photos or line drawings of the IJN Kensho Maru that sunk at Truk Lagoon 1944? I�m particularly looking for a good overhead view, mostly regarding the funnel deck. I�m trying to find out if her engine room skylight was either forward or aft of her funnel. Any help would be most appreciated!


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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Dan K » Fri Jan 07, 2022 10:42 pm

I'm actually not sure what that part is. I think it's the rack that holds the ladder when stowed, by wrapping those fingers under and above it. Or at least sticking out at 90*.

Re: Calling all Japanese Post-War Merchant Marine Fans......

by ch hoeltge » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:32 am

Thanks Dan. So it's clear I needto add the two booms.

I added a pic of the instructions. I hope you know the part 12C.

Greetings Christian
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Re: Calling all Japanese Post-War Merchant Marine Fans......

by Dan K » Thu Jan 06, 2022 12:07 pm

Sister ship Sakito Maru. What is part 12C?
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Re: Calling all Japanese Post-War Merchant Marine Fans......

by ch hoeltge » Thu Jan 06, 2022 5:58 am

Hello,

I'm building Fujimi sado Maru. Beside you need a lot of filler it is an nice kit.
I have just two question, When I see the instructions right there wars a crane boom in front of the bridge. I drawed it on my pic.
If this is correct where would the pulleys attatched for the hight regulation?
And I think I read here the winches are missing for it.

Another question I also have the new PE set from Toms for the kit. I would like to add the raised boarding ladder.
If so what is part 12C and where to add it?

Greetings Christian
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by pascalemod » Tue Dec 15, 2020 4:35 am

Dan K wrote:What you have highlighted seems good to me.
Gotten this far with the help here. Thank you!
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Dan K » Sun Dec 13, 2020 9:55 am

What you have highlighted seems good to me.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by pascalemod » Sat Dec 12, 2020 7:13 am

I got this far. Next Im contemplating copying these ideas shown above.

I did a crude editing on my model - does this look accurate to what is on that pic, best we can tell?

So in red are those little fossets in pairs, I see 4-6 of them?
Orange - the large goosneck - this isnt a an air intake? If not, then I assume it should match that pipe you see on the deck?

I recall seeing a picture of an oiler that on deck had a lot of hoses that probably connected to the the ship and made a long pipe to fuel the ship. Is that the case here? Did it really connect to this one crude gooseneck intake?

Feel free to correct me!
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Dan K » Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:11 pm

Well, there are some things in the set that can be used, but little of what I'm referring to.

See if this pic helps. The rightmost arrow points to one of those standing hatch/doorway type covers and opening, I believe.
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by pascalemod » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:44 am

Dan K wrote:If you enlarge the original photo that Berend linked, you can see one large horizontal pipe aft of the bridge structure that stops almost halfway across the raised decking. There seems to be a refueling hose hookup point at its end. I also see a large gooseneck intake, and a couple of other bits.
I dont see anything of what you described! :heh:
I did find this detailing set though. Does that show anything to what you describe?
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by Dan K » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:15 pm

If you enlarge the original photo that Berend linked, you can see one large horizontal pipe aft of the bridge structure that stops almost halfway across the raised decking. There seems to be a refueling hose hookup point at its end. I also see a large gooseneck intake, and a couple of other bits.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by berend » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:13 pm

Five Star FS710179 1/700 Upgrade set I for Harbour Auxlliary Vessels and Hunter W70080 1/700 IJN Tugger Set wooden deck may have some useful parts for your model.

Regards,

Berend.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by pascalemod » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:26 pm

berend wrote:A picture of this type of heavy oil ship can be found here:

http://jmapps.ne.jp/yamatomuseum/det.html?data_id=96126

It shows No. 3998 (??????????????), taken on November 1947 at Nagaura.

Unfortunately the museum adds a watermark to each picture they put online. I don't have one without a watermark, perhaps someone else has.

Regards,

Berend.
This is useful - as in a sense that this thing actually existed. 500t is what I gathered was the tonnage. A tiny thing.

So I have built this. Any one could help me with deck fittings that could be added (to make this thing an "oiler"?). As you see I have thus far added some pipe on deck (brass) to replace what was there in plastic, I added one wench on stern (?) and I did drill some small hawse pipes but focsle is bare and needs something on it.. Hollowed out funnel, added some "windows" and "doors" on bare super structures.. Otherwise Im all in for ideas how to spruce it up.
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Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by berend » Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:39 pm

A picture of this type of heavy oil ship can be found here:

http://jmapps.ne.jp/yamatomuseum/det.html?data_id=96126

It shows No. 3998 (??????????????), taken on November 1947 at Nagaura.

Unfortunately the museum adds a watermark to each picture they put online. I don't have one without a watermark, perhaps someone else has.

Regards,

Berend.

Re: Calling all Japanese pre-war/wartime Merchant Marine fan

by pascalemod » Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:10 am

Having recently picked up Tamiya 1/700 tugger set, I see there is an "oiler" thats possible to build. I have decided to do just that, but in full hull.

Do we have any pictures or plans of these Auxilary fuel oilers from IJN? I cant seem to find any. They are quite small ships, so probably not much of interest as such, which is why I wanna build one. :) ANy help appreciated.

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