Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

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Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:20 pm

Wefalk, your photographer skills are definitely higher than mine!!!!!!!

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.....it's been a long long time from my last update, and finally i have something to show!

I seriously think that i'll NEVER call this ship FINISHED! But, here is the old Ironclad at her actual state!

Dressed overall!

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a lot of touchups sill needed, some details need to be reworked or added, and need to add the crew.

A little bit of "self-criticism".

I'm unsatisfied with the result of the deck. It's quite nice from the pictures, but actually is nothing like what i was aiming.
Masts: tooooooooo think, as per the yardarms, next time i'll try to taper'em all!
Boat davits: too simple, need to think to some other way to build them.
Anti torpedo netting booms: too simple, need to detail them up a bit, but i don't know what to add and how.
Deck fittings: seriously thinking of removing and redoing - pure s@*#!

However, this little ship took back to home a bronze in ships, master category at the "red devils awards" in Thiene, italy

cheeeeeeeeeers from italy,

Stefano

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by wefalck » Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:00 pm

Have been to Venice in August, re-visited the Museo Navale and took some more detail-pictures of the model of the REGINA MARIA PIA: http://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/ma ... zia-1.html

wefalck

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by maxim » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:42 am

Hi Stefano,
exactly, this is the title.

Cheers
Lars

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Sun Feb 17, 2013 10:16 am

HI Maxim. i ordered the book from my local hobby shop, i had it in 3 days. i searched for your book, but from what i see it's long gone.

can you confirm me that this is the title you are searching for?

http://www.ilmare.com/prodotti/esploratori-italiani.php

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by maxim » Sun Feb 17, 2013 9:26 am

Oh, that is annoying to find good material that late! :cry_3:

Where you have found that book? I am searching "Esploratori italiani" of the same series, but I cannot find it.

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:17 am

The well known and feared "modeler's luck". or Karma. or whatever.

i just bought a (fantastic/phabolous/great/epic/insert most liked superlative) book, "le navi di linea italiane dal 1861 al 1875" (italian ships of the line from 1861 to 1975) which covers the evolutions of italian battleships from the only and unique italian ship of the line (Re Galantuomo) to the last of the masted ironclads (Principe Amedeo class)

OBVIOUSLY, i dare to say, there is a comprehensive and detailed section dedicated to the Regina Maria Pia class.
I thought i was nearing the end of the project...well, wrong forecast.

My work was based on guessing made upon pictures and a really few bad quality drawings spotted here and there on the net, so having a quite precise documentation in my hands is quite...well..frustrating :censored_2:

I quite spotted the hull, only the stern area is a little too much sloped, but i can live with this. i need to close half on the gunports on the sides, becouse the covedered wheelhouse appeared only after the reduction of the gunports.
Masts: overall they are spotted on (dimensionally) but there are some errors in painting and positioning.
I placed the funnel too much forward, and so the covered wheelhouse. I don't know if i can move the thing backwards without smashing the wheelhouse. afterall, its 1 mm.
Air vents: need to add one on the forcastle between the bow gunports (they still existed at the time of the picture) and at least one behind the funnel, which needs strands and apparently a cap grill (can be seen only on a (nice) coloured profile on the book).
Need to add searchlights platform on the aft "superstructure". quite hard task, but they are clearly there and are a quite prominent feature.
Anchor cranes: need to add these on the bow, and to add two platform (rapid fire gun??? salute gun??) upon the cranes top.
Antitorpedo nets: they were of the "Lerm" type, so need to find pictures of the real thing and to find a way to make these in '700.
Stern gun: still present, need to build the "barbette" and the gun.

So...back to work, the road to the end is loooooong and hard.


cheers!

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by maxim » Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:32 am

Nice to see a model of a masted ironclad :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:25 pm

Hi all, and thanks for the nice words and -expecially- for criticism and suggestions.

the flag gala will be obviously finished, i'm just preparing it on a separate rigging strand to apply at the end of the rigging process.

for the masts - i really don't like their appearance, for the next project i'm already working to achieve a better result...and to learn soldering. don't like the superglue, they snapped off a couple of time while rigging it. :Mad_5:


hope to post pictures of the finished thing asap :D:D


Cheers!

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by JIM BAUMANN » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:07 pm

well done Stefano!

Model overall looks good ! Bravo :thumbs_up_1:

Dressed overall = Flag gala... great idea!

( did it on my Wien- and loved the effect!!)

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/sh ... index.html

A few thoughts if I may..?

On your next sailing rigged model if you are unable to make or buy tapered yards- make then undersize - ie the size of the ends of the yards and make up the apparent thickness midships on the back once attached to the masts building up using stetched sprue, and disguise on the fwd and lower face with the white glue sails.

also -I would be inclined to continue the flag gala to the mizzen mast down to the stern

It will - in my view- make a more balanced appearance....

But- comments aside�� great model and great effort!

Greetings from Germany ( for one week! )

JIM B :wave_1: :wave_1:

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by LE BOSCO » Sun Dec 23, 2012 2:02 pm

Hello Stephano

your project takes a beautiful bustle :thumbs_up_1:
congrats
cheers
Nicolas

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Sun Dec 23, 2012 1:08 pm

Hi all.

had a little spare time to dedicate to the Regina Maria Pia, so i added a little rigging and...
well, black ship with white stripe and yellow funnels and masts...toooo plain.
So i decided to take a little "poetic license" and to add...a gran gala of flags! Used the bobby elements decal, they have some minor errors that has to be corrected but after all they are quite decent. only the green of the flag is a little too light, but that's it.

also added a lifeboat hanging from her davits and the fabric stripes which are visible in some pictures.
next stage: finish rigging, add the crew and some colour touch ups...
and finish to rise the gran gala :heh:

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work continues, i really hope to finish the model before the end of the year...

have a nice day/night/whatever,

Cheers from Italy :wave_1:

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by wefalck » Sun Dec 09, 2012 4:59 am

There is also a large-scale (contemporary?) model of her in the Museo Storico Navale in Venice: http://www.maritima-et-mechanika.org/ma ... zia-1.html. It presumably shows her as built.

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Apologies for the image quality, but the lighting in the room in the museum is rather dim.

wefalck

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Duilio » Sun Dec 09, 2012 12:34 am

Ok Thanks

David

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:26 pm

tanks to you all.

@Duilio: actually no.
there are only a few drawings, very basic, with profile and elevations, and a side plan with a partial sail plan of Castelfidardo, that you can find on the "service historique de la marine" site under the name of "cuirasse italienne castelfidardo", togheter with some sections oh the ram and a section of the hull.

The plans that i drawn are basically guessing at it's best. no precise and sicure reference, only the few pictures i was able to find on the net.
The best source of informations for this build is the 1:100 model of JP64, as he is a very competent and able modeller, for sure better than i am.

To make things "easier" this ship (and her sisters) had a long career and received a lot of transformation.

just to be clearer, she started like this


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and ended like this

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in between, my version, JP version and maybe some other stages.
Worst, the pictures available online are often not clear, low res and...not surely identified.

So, MY build is FAR from being accurate. it's the result of my guessing, and a little logic, but i really can't say that it's an accurate reproduction of the real thing.
Guessing continues, so...stay tuned :D

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Duilio » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:00 pm

Interesting subject

Are there any profile plans available

David

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Ziga » Sat Dec 08, 2012 2:50 pm

Great model Stefano!

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Captain pugwash » Sat Dec 08, 2012 10:56 am

Great work indeed Stephano.

Watching this with great Interest. :wave_1:

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by MichelB » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:57 am

I love this build! :thumbs_up_1:

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by LE BOSCO » Fri Dec 07, 2012 12:48 pm

hello Stephano

very nice job !it'll be very beautifull once finished :thumbs_up_1:
congrat's
nicolas

Re: Regina Maria Pia, 1/700 scale, from scratch.

by Stefano Salesi » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:20 pm

Hi all. time to resume this WIP.

Work on this strange little Ironclad continues, slowly, but it continues.
Finally gave a try to rigging, but more important, i'm trying to learn how to use (correctly) a digital camera.
I'm still a dog-shaped photographer but hell, it's a starting point :heh: :heh:
I started to rig the ship. tried stretched sprue. disaster :huh:
scratching my head to find a more suitable (for me) solution, i found some nylon thread (the black one coming with the ZVEZDA Sirius) that was uncoiling at one of the ends. tried to pull out a single fiber and...thin...black..strong...hey, i like it! separated MOOOORE fibres and started making tests. lots of tests, especially about glue reactions.
White glue: no grip.
Styrene glue: very little grip, ligthly corrosive, tensioned lenghts snaps if wetted with it. fumes of tamiya green cap give a little tension to lenghts of "rope"
CA glue: sticks really well on metal, plastic, paper and all. Very brittle fibre on fibre.
The single fibre is not straight when uncoiled, it remains quite "springy"...but hot steam from a boiling pot of water help to straighten it up.
ironing the fibre is simply devastating, the rope melts down even if wetted or protectd with a towel. (hint: do the ironing test when SWMBO is out :heh: )
Rigging is not complete, it's just the first batch of ropes :D

Sooooooo
lest's start with pictures


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and at last, a picture similar to the "real one" which i'm using as inspiration :D

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cheers to you all....

and stay tuned :D

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