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by **wefalck** » Thu May 30, 2013 2:05 am

The boat you are referring to is an armoured Dutch gunboat that came to fame during the Belgian struggle for independence in the 1830s. The drawing was published by Edmond de P�ris in his 'Souvenirs de la Marine' (vol. 1, if I am not mistaken) in the 1880s. There was a large model in a dedicated showcase in the old Antwerp Maritiem Museum telling her story).

wefalck

by **lothar79** » Mon May 27, 2013 6:05 am

Thank you mcg !
As I mentioned, I found this model very challenging. But this kind of sailing vessel inspired me quite a lot... Browsing through the internet I also found the sites:
http://www.arbeitskreis-historischer-sc ... hmack2.htm
and
http://parus.ucoz.lv/forum/11-312-1.
The latter has the most attracted my attention. If I find some time, maybye I digitalize the same boat. Moreover, she carried cannons so this way would much better comply with the name of this forum "mil-mesh"

by **mcg** » Fri May 24, 2013 8:13 pm

Lothar, great job, I have really enjoyed following this thread -- especially admired the hull and the capstan mechanism.

The English call these boats, or their 19th century descendants, "old gaffers." The French call them "vieux greements", meaning old-type rigs. The survivors have summer gatherings chonicled in these links:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/barryjames ... 47845@N20/

http://www.google.com/search?q=vieux+gr ... 07&bih=785

http://www.paperblog.fr/2203871/rencont ... la-chaise/

The best modelers' source for plans and photos of these types that I have found was the French magazine, Modele Reduit de Bateau. The editor was a "vieux greement" enthusiast.

I hope you do more with these, they are fascinating boats.

Michael

by **lothar79** » Tue May 21, 2013 4:41 pm

Thanks for your nice comments. Unfortunatelly, planking of the hull is still far beyond my skills :sorry:

Anyway I found texturing this model very challenging. Each one part had to be UV-mapped... But it gave me an opportunity to get familiar with a new Blender user interface. I hope, next time I will be able to show good textures expandede along the sailng vessel's hul. Cheers.

by **tea monster** » Sun May 19, 2013 11:33 am

The wood textures look lovely. Nice detail on the deck fittings.

I would do something with the green paint. I think it needs a wood plank bump under it or something similar. It looks just like You filled in with the bucket tool in photoshop. As the wood textures are nicely detailed, it just accentuates the difference.

Either add a plank 'bump' map or mix in a wood texture under the green to give it a bit of reality.

Apart from that one thing, excellent job.

Glad you are finding the 2.5/6 series nice to work with. You'll like the new modelling tools in the last few versions.

Owen

by **DrPR** » Thu May 16, 2013 1:29 am

Lothar,

Nice model. I would like to see more detail of the masts and rigging.

I have been watching (when time permits) to see how you did with the rigging. Most of the models posted here are steam powered and have little if any rigging. My experience has been that realistic rigging in a CAD model is very difficult (I am currently struggling with the blocks and tackle for the lifts, vangs, and other rigging on the boat booms on my model). Drawing things like rope loops and knots is maddening!

Doing a large full rigged square rigger would be very difficult.

Phil

by **Fritz** » Sun May 12, 2013 3:40 pm

No, we're paying attention. Perhaps it's just "stunned" silence.

Beautiful work Lothar! Looking forward to whats next.

by **lothar79** » Sun May 12, 2013 5:52 am

I see, my smack has not attracted anyone's attention

So, one more picture to finish my subject. It is time to start with another project.
By the way, my main goal while "building" this model was to get familiar with the new interface of Blender (so far a used to use the version 2.49b). This sailing vessel was created within Blender 2.63a. As you can see this is very efficient tool, and I feel happy making small progress with the new version of sotware.

by **lothar79** » Fri Apr 26, 2013 7:07 am

It is time to finish my boat

In the picture you can see the smack shown without the mastst.

by **tea monster** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:07 am

How I would handle it would be to UV map the hull, then in the UV editor, adjust your map so that the horizontal lines are actually horizontal. Then that should cause the planks to 'curve up'.

Good work.

Owen

by **lothar79** » Tue Aug 28, 2012 3:06 am

I struggle against the textures... Finally I have found the colour I am happy with, but I can not stretch this texture properly on the hull

Anyway, some update.

by **lothar79** » Fri Jul 27, 2012 2:19 am

Today, another view with couple of new deck devices.

by **lothar79** » Tue Jul 17, 2012 12:17 pm

Thanks Owen.

by **tea monster** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:28 pm

That is looking very good indeed. The shape is intriguing and the texturing for the wood looks good. Looking forward to the rest of it getting shaders!

Don't worry about the rate of work, it's the quality that counts. We're all 'guilty' of something similar at some time.

Good rope tut for Blender

Owen

by **lothar79** » Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:09 pm

Since my professional life keeps me very busy, I do not have much time to make any significant progress... :sorry:

Anyway, I have put some new parts aboard. I also try to deal with the ropes. How to make them? So far - no answer

by **Fritz** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:47 pm

Very nice work Lothar!

Love the texturing.

by **lothar79** » Wed Jun 27, 2012 2:23 pm

This time only a capstan. But still one step forward

by **lothar79** » Sat Jun 09, 2012 2:27 am

Thank you for your kind opinions.

tea monster
I will show the wires as soon as I find some wire

(of course - next time)

DrPR:
As far as I know some parts of the ships were also painted. But I am deeply convinced in this case the spars were varnished.
There are few real models of the smack I know built by experienced guys, who did not painted the hull and other parts over the deck, e.g.:
http://www.koga.net.pl/forum/search.php

And I keep my "digital shipyard" working

Cheers

EDIT: (I hate multi-posting)

Hello again!
Here you have what I have done today. I assembled all parts I have built so far. Simply, could not resist to see how it looked like...

by **tea monster** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:42 pm

Looking interesting. Keep us posted. I'm still interested in some wires

Owen

by **DrPR** » Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:20 am

Lothar,

It looks good. But I wonder how they finished the spars to protect them - varnish or paint?

This is a good build, and quite different from the more modern metal ships we have seen here. It will be interesting to see what unique challenges you find in modeling a sailing ship.

Phil

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