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Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Iceman 29 » Wed Feb 05, 2025 5:34 pm

Battleship Richelieu at anchor.

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The French battleship Richelieu parades in front of the American aircraft carrier Saratoga during a review.



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Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by darcy » Sun Nov 24, 2024 3:17 am

The turret tops of both the 15" and 6" turrets were painted G10 as well.



HTH

Darcy
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Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by RichardAigner » Thu Oct 24, 2024 3:56 am

About Richelieu's 1945 camouflage (G45 hull with B20 panel, G45 superstructure with G10 turrets and funnel), while with the British Pacific Fleet, is it known what color her turret tops were?

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Mr. Church » Fri Jul 15, 2022 4:49 am

"Radeaux de Brest" perhaps?

L'Arsenal do them in 1/350 Scale in resin and PE:
http://www.larsenal.com/radeaux-type-br ... 2x30258529

And in 1/400 scale as 3D prints:
http://www.larsenal.com/radeaux-type-br ... 2x36710009

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by okram12 » Sun Jul 10, 2022 2:50 pm

I am interested in the period 1944-45. It reminds me more of Navy Balsa Life Float / Raft
But from what I can see it's probably some French invention. For the fact that I have seen such in Strasbourg

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by okram12 » Sat Jul 09, 2022 6:16 am

Hello. I'm building Richelieu and I'm looking for news and pictures or drawings of life rafts. Illustrative photo at the link.
https://external-preview.redd.it/5CL9fZ ... 0e7c2f804a
It is blurry and you cannot see much of it, and I would like something more precise.
Please help.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Mr. Church » Thu Dec 30, 2021 4:11 am

As has been mentioned here before I'm sure, Richelieu and Jean Bart went on exercise together only once in their careers, in January 1956. There are photos of this rare event in some of the books on the class.

However it seems the event was also filmed. Look what I found on the French Ministry of Defence Images website:

https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/fr/toulon ... lent.html#
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No commentary or anything, but the 17 minute long clip contains some lovely aerial and onboard footage of both Richelieu and Jean Bart.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Mr. Church » Tue Dec 07, 2021 8:50 am

A clip from 1943 showing Richelieu ready for battle as she emerged from her U.S. refit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxybmZXMcP4

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Mr. Church » Sat Jul 03, 2021 4:33 am

The French Mus�e National de la Marine or National Maritime Museum have some photos online of their collection. Including their models of Richelieu and Jean Bart. Might be useful references for someone?

Richelieu here:

https://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-natio ... MAAZ9Gmw$$

Jean Bart here:

https://mnm.webmuseo.com/ws/musee-natio ... MA_V9GlQ$$

I was lucky enough to see them 'in the flesh' in Paris a few years ago. Lovely models.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Mr. Church » Thu Jun 10, 2021 12:20 pm

As regards the question on which version is correct for Jean Bart. Well it depends on the era. When substantially completed in 1950 (but with interim AA Armament of 40mm Bofors and 20mm Oerlikons) she had gun tubs for four 20mm Oerlikons atop her No. 2 Turret. Two pairs of two. These would have to be added in if you are depicting her in 1950. Not the best photo but you can see the tubs here:

https://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=1491

As finally commissioned in 1955 the 20mm Oerlikon Tubs were removed from the turret as by this stage she had her full design AA Armament of 100mm AA Guns and 57mm Bofors Guns as seen here:

https://www.deviantart.com/stephenbarlo ... -559813254

The main gun turrets remained like this until she was scrapped in 1970.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by drdoom1337 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:43 pm

Timmy C wrote:Were they much different from as-built? If not, MicroMaster has some wonderful prints: https://micromaster.co.nz/products/1-40 ... blast-bags

From my less than extensive research, I'm not certain. I can see that two different versions of the same turret (both with blast bags) are listed on that website. Both in 1/400 scale, both with the same descriptions. I believe much of her secondary armament is completely different from Richelieu

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Timmy C » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:22 pm

Were they much different from as-built? If not, MicroMaster has some wonderful prints: https://micromaster.co.nz/products/1-40 ... blast-bags

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by drdoom1337 » Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:17 pm

Regarding the 1/400 scale Jean Bart kit (which I've just purchased because I fancy the ship), are there available turrets in resin or 3d print that are accurate for Jean Bart during the 50's and 60's?

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Fliger747 » Fri May 07, 2021 11:50 pm

A very handsome warship with interesting design features, shared with the Dunkirk's.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Iceman 29 » Fri Mar 26, 2021 7:23 am

Richelieu 3D Model: :thumbs_up_1:
The Richelieu was a French Richelieu-class battleship during World War 2. She was turned over the Free French Naval Forces after the Allied invasion of North Africa. After being sent to the United States for repairs and a refit, she served with the British Home Fleet. This model represents her layout after her refit in the USA.

�Thomas Beerens
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/richeli ... del-shared

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by chuck » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:55 pm

olive40 wrote:Without playing the "Calimero" :big_grin: , I think the Frenchies topics just don't interest Trumpeter.

If the Richelieu had sunk the Bismarck, we would probably not have this discussion today.

And that if the French fleet (supposedly so bad) had not landed in Toulon, some things would certainly have been different!
Without wanting to launch any debate.
:thumbs_up_1:

Caugh, Gaugh, Danton, Caugh.

Trumpeter, hobby boss, literally the same thing.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by olive40 » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:34 pm

Without playing the "Calimero" :big_grin: , I think the Frenchies topics just don't interest Trumpeter.

If the Richelieu had sunk the Bismarck, we would probably not have this discussion today.

And that if the French fleet (supposedly so bad) had not landed in Toulon, some things would certainly have been different!
Without wanting to launch any debate.
:thumbs_up_1:

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Timmy C » Tue Nov 24, 2020 6:03 pm

If kit accuracy was a major determinant of sales, we wouldn't still be seeing Revell's 1/537 Missouri, Banner/MHM/Hobby Boss 1/350 Arizona, Revell 1/1200 Scharnhorst/Bismarck/anything being sold and built...;)

An argument could be made that Richelieu is a more obscure subject so those who buy it are probably more discerning, but that would require them to actually look up reviews and then care about the errors enough for them to not buy it versus having a kit (the only kit available!) with some acceptable errors.

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Caravellarella » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:44 pm

Matt Flegal wrote:
olive40 wrote:Hello,
I ask a question that must have been asked before but when I see the news announced for 2021 at 1/200 ...
Can we believe in a production of battleships of the Dunkerque class and Richelieu class at 1/200 in the years to come by manufacturers such as Trumpeter or Hobby Boss?
Or is it a dream?
My understanding is that the 1/350 Richelieu did not sell very well so I would doubt that they would take the chance on a 1/200. Unfortunately as I would be interested in one!
Perhaps it didn't sell well because the manufacturer didn't do their research properly?

Terry (Caravellarella)

Re: Calling all MN Richelieu & Jean Bart fans

by Matt Flegal » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:25 pm

olive40 wrote:Hello,
I ask a question that must have been asked before but when I see the news announced for 2021 at 1/200 ...
Can we believe in a production of battleships of the Dunkerque class and Richelieu class at 1/200 in the years to come by manufacturers such as Trumpeter or Hobby Boss?
Or is it a dream?
My understanding is that the 1/350 Richelieu did not sell very well so I would doubt that they would take the chance on a 1/200. Unfortunately as I would be interested in one!

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