by 508medway » Sun Nov 15, 2015 2:54 am
As far I know, in case of G45 base, the pennant numbers should be dark, I don't remember the exact colour now.
You are right pendant numbers are dark on light grey and light on dark grey. The 507C colours would have been on home station ships as the RN had finally worked out that dark colours were better suited to brighter climates like the far east and light on home station. I�ve just done a search for Envoy and on May 22nd 1945 HMAS Norman was deployed as escort for Tug Envoy during tow of HMS Quilliam to Leyte. Logically then, as she was in the Far East, she would have been dark grey i.e. 507A. Interesting that at some time in the war (as commissioned?) she was light grey. Also interesting is that few tugs in photographs are wearing their pendant numbers. Makes me wonder if the home stationed ships didn�t and foreign or only the Far East with the US Navy had them painted up. I can't find any info of where Encore served.
Also, the contrast between white pennant numbers and hull colour is the main reason to consider colour darker than G45/AP507C.
Do you have any late war 44-45 picture of a tug, what can easily recognized as G45/AP507C? Yes Envoy, although she is wearing an interesting version of her pendant number!
Some colour charts and also normally considered as accurate Colorcoats -enamels have very different grey for G45 than the AP507C, all G45:s are more brownish/beige. Do you have any explanation for this? I have now very contradictory information about this. Refer to the attached from AFO 3113 1944 where it states this. It also says that ships not requiring camouflage which could mean vessels such as tugs which you rarely see wearing camo schemes. I�d guess that the tan grey version might have come from looking at a discoloured original sample.
As far I know, in case of G45 base, the pennant numbers should be dark, I don't remember the exact colour now.
[color=#0000FF]You are right pendant numbers are dark on light grey and light on dark grey. The 507C colours would have been on home station ships as the RN had finally worked out that dark colours were better suited to brighter climates like the far east and light on home station. I�ve just done a search for Envoy and on May 22nd 1945 HMAS Norman was deployed as escort for Tug Envoy during tow of HMS Quilliam to Leyte. Logically then, as she was in the Far East, she would have been dark grey i.e. 507A. Interesting that at some time in the war (as commissioned?) she was light grey. Also interesting is that few tugs in photographs are wearing their pendant numbers. Makes me wonder if the home stationed ships didn�t and foreign or only the Far East with the US Navy had them painted up. I can't find any info of where Encore served. [/color]
Also, the contrast between white pennant numbers and hull colour is the main reason to consider colour darker than G45/AP507C.
Do you have any late war 44-45 picture of a tug, what can easily recognized as G45/AP507C? [color=#0000FF]Yes Envoy, although she is wearing an interesting version of her pendant number![/color]
Some colour charts and also normally considered as accurate Colorcoats -enamels have very different grey for G45 than the AP507C, all G45:s are more brownish/beige. Do you have any explanation for this? I have now very contradictory information about this. [color=#0000FF]Refer to the attached from AFO 3113 1944 where it states this. It also says that ships not requiring camouflage which could mean vessels such as tugs which you rarely see wearing camo schemes. I�d guess that the tan grey version might have come from looking at a discoloured original sample.[/color]