Pontosmodel 1/200 HMS Hood 1941 Detail Set

[Pontosmodel]

Also note the fog light, HMS Hood carried two, as did many ships. This detail is often missed. The other fog light is on the aft jackstaff.

To use the Rodney's... But I think it needs some more modifications.
Anyway thank you

Here are the photos we promised you:


Also shown are some other details...such as cutting out the flag locker, cutting out the the archways forward and of course removal of the ladder and door. .

Flag Locker seems to be located half of opening...
This opening has no rail or similar for safety?

Keumho Kim

[EJFoeth]

I do not think there's a flag locker there, simply because there are no signal halyards present. It may have been some type of locker. I would not cut out the 'locker', but sand it away and add some new surface detail?

[Pontosmodel]

Yep seeing from following photo, the Flag Locker is much higher than barrier.
Adding smaller locker type box may be enough.


Anyway Two funnels seemed to have similar size after applied..

Keumho kim

[SovereignHobbies]

That's looking very nice Kim

[EJFoeth]

Yep seeing from following photo, the Flag Locker is much higher than barrier.

Normally I'd agree, but this little fellow was in the wreckage:



Confusingly, I have no other photograph or source showing this smaller flag locker.... if it is a flag locker

If anyone knows what it is...

[FW_Allen]

I need to move away from N2 for a moment and go back to the bridge, part L2:

Forum member CAG has made a very interesting find! He noticed (in an IWM-held photo of Hood in 1940) that there was some sort of bulkhead or splinter shielding directly under the curved portion of the rear corners of the extended signal platform. EJ Foeth took a look and found the feature on the 1941 photos. I also took a look and confirmed that they are in my photos.

So the detail set will need some extra brass to replicate these shields!

Here is the first image

There is definitely something under the deck!


This is a similar shot...but here we can see that the structure did not reach out to the very edge...


In these photos, you can clearly see the extension (it would be mirrored on the other side of the ship)


This one is very grainy, but it shows the structure very well indeed.


This is what EJ and I think it looked like in plan view.

I also ran this by Maurice Northcott and he was very interested. He noted that there was a mention of bulkwark and shielding being added to the ship in the Spring 1940 update.

Note- you can also see one of the support pillars for the extended signals deck. I'm not sure how many more there were...but it would make sense of they were in each main corner/angle...so we could have anywhere from 2 to 6.

[Cag]

Hi All,

Thanks very much for the mention Mr Allen, it was just a lucky spot on my part. The plaudits I feel must go to yourself and Mr Foeth for all the great work done and which continues to be done.

As always
best wishes
Cag

[Lothar31]

When Fan I Order this Set?

Kings regards from switzerland
Lothar

[Timhan]

Apologies if this has been covered previously but are the main turrets accurate?.
They were one of the worst errors with their 1/350 kit. They seem to be "OK" in
the pictures i have seen. Must say, am really tempted to proceed with this project.

[FW_Allen]

Shape of the turrets is much better than the 350 kit. They should be quite passable with some detailing.

Back to Bridge extension photo...if you look carefully at the damaged UP splinter shield in the foreground, you'll notice that the step down (where the lower section of the shield meets the higher portion) was much further inboard than shown on the kit (1/350 kit got this wrong too). Very easy fix...snip and file!

Back to part N2- I was just reminded that the "blisters" (outcroppings on the lower forward corners...directly below the two lower/outer searchlight platforms) are missing from N2. I've seen these as late as 1940 and assume they were still in place at the time of the sinking. Will try to find a photo.

[FW_Allen]

As promised, here are some photos of the outcroppings that are missing from part N2:



Note- There is a door on the wide, forward bulkhead of N2. This is actually correct! I was surprised they got it!

FYI- We're currently looking at some other potential structural changes...recent photo finds are causing us to take some closer looks at other previously accepted features. Some of the items are actually quite notable and we're surprised we've not noticed things before. If we find anything that has changed, we will let you know.

[FW_Allen]

Here's another detail that Trumpeter left out. It appears to be some sort of chute on the portside of the bow. This should be an easy addition for most modellers really (shape a piece of plastic rod and glue it on). I'm showing it here in case Pontos wishes to create a part.

[FW_Allen]

Flag Locker seems to be located half of opening...
This opening has no rail or similar for safety?

There was definitely an opening on both side of the top of the platform as well as lockers carried slightly inboard of these openings from at least 1938 onward. We can see the gap in photos as late as April 1941. The photo below shows views from 1938, 1939/40 and 1941. The gap/opening was definitely there. The lockers were inboard of the openings. Since railings were used in 1938 and the area changed very little (some splinter shield work forward of the opening), its very likely that there were rails there in 1941.

So yes, there was a rail over both openings...two horizontal bars. Not sure about stanchions.

[Timhan]

Interesting. I revisited my copy of Bruce Taylor,s "Biography of .." book and at various pages in the book (beautiful by the way),
there are several photos taken at different timescales which show little or no splinter shield, just railings. Maybe of interest to
those building Hood in her pre-war years.

[EJFoeth]

Opening in upper splintershield aft control platform later closed, left image, next to red arrow

[FW_Allen]

Your left hand photo is from 1939 as I recall. It's the same timeframe as the lower right inset in my previous photo...two photos from the same time but different angles. The gap is there in my photo...so it has to be there in yours. The reason we don't see it in your photo is due to the angle. It must be an optical illusion..the gap is there, but from the angle we are seeing, the locker inboard of it appears to fill the gap. It really didn't.

We also have the April/May 1941 at sea photo that shows the gap.

Halyard ...wasn't the mainmast ensign halyard accessed from that structure? That might explain the "flag lockers".

[FW_Allen]

Kim, do you have an updated photo of the Pontos parts for the boat deck splinter shields? We need to see what you are planning to include for the various 4" gun, pom-pom and UP splinter shielding. This will help us prepare our next drawings for you.

Basically, we have determined that ALL four of the boat deck UP shields are slightly incorrect: The problem lies with the higher sections of the shielding...for the forward two UPs, there was not a single "step up" in the shields, but apparently two "step ups" (to the front). For the aft two shields, we have determined that the higher areas are not centered on the curve, but are actually positioned a bit more towards the front. Needless to say, this isn't in any drawing, plan, book or previous model. Modellers can easily do this work with a knife and file, but it would look much better with photoetch.

We have also found that the forward 4" gun shields need some changes: The shield rose up in height as they went outboard. Very slight but noticeable. Again, this would look really good in photoetch...and you are already modifying this shield (the forward section has the sharply angled up piece).

[Pontosmodel]

So the detail set will need some extra brass to replicate these shields!

Here is the first image

We tried to realize this area part.

Thank you
Keumho Kim

[Pontosmodel]

Kim, do you have an updated photo of the Pontos parts for the boat deck splinter shields? We need to see what you are planning to include for the various 4" gun, pom-pom and UP splinter shielding. This will help us prepare our next drawings for you.

Basically, we have determined that ALL four of the boat deck UP shields are slightly incorrect: The problem lies with the higher sections of the shielding...for the forward two UPs, there was not a single "step up" in the shields, but apparently two "step ups" (to the front). For the aft two shields, we have determined that the higher areas are not centered on the curve, but are actually positioned a bit more towards the front. Needless to say, this isn't in any drawing, plan, book or previous model. Modellers can easily do this work with a knife and file, but it would look much better with photoetch.

We have also found that the forward 4" gun shields need some changes: The shield rose up in height as they went outboard. Very slight but noticeable. Again, this would look really good in photoetch...and you are already modifying this shield (the forward section has the sharply angled up piece).

Well we try to realize the wrong shape shield if easy modification for modellers.
So please advice or post anything for our new trying.



Thank you
Keumho Kim

[Pontosmodel]

Any estimation now for how much it would be??

Thanks

When Fan I Order this Set?

Kings regards from switzerland
Lothar

Well, the retail price will be same as HMS Nelson and Rodney.
We are also eagerly release as soon as possible.



Thank you
Keumho Kim