Calling all WW2 IJN sub fans
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- Blackbeard
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Re: Calling all WW2 IJN sub fans
Good Morning (East Coast guy),
I am in the process of building the Monogram (current manufacture) I-19 as it wold have looked during its infamous attack on 15 September '42.
Some questions I haven't been able to determine are:
1. Would the collapsible aircraft crane be stowed? And if so, is it stowed under the deck or on top?
2. The same question for the aft radio mast (the TALL one)?
3. And again with the smaller collapsible cargo cranes?
I would think that anything that would cause drag/turbulence would be stowed while the sub was being fought. I didn't see anything to this on the thread here so I hope some experts can guide me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance!
I am in the process of building the Monogram (current manufacture) I-19 as it wold have looked during its infamous attack on 15 September '42.
Some questions I haven't been able to determine are:
1. Would the collapsible aircraft crane be stowed? And if so, is it stowed under the deck or on top?
2. The same question for the aft radio mast (the TALL one)?
3. And again with the smaller collapsible cargo cranes?
I would think that anything that would cause drag/turbulence would be stowed while the sub was being fought. I didn't see anything to this on the thread here so I hope some experts can guide me in the right direction.
Thanks in advance!
Experience is what you get right after you need it.
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Dan K
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All of those items would be stowed for underwater operations and attack.
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Thanks for the confirmation Dan! I guess I can presume that those items were stowed below deck?
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ssn705
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Aircraft crane folded aft into a recess in the deck next to the aircraft hangar. Tall mast that held antennas folded aft into a recess in the deck. Both are visible from above when stowed. Smaller davits were broken down and stowed out of sight.
Dave
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Perfect! Thanks for the info! 
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JamesAPrattIII
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I recently finished the Shipways 1/700 I-201 and I-121 submarines. They both looked right in detail and scale other:
I-201 1 part I added 2 periscopes and a snokel painted the deck black and the rest of the boat grey
I-121 2 parts the sub and a deck gun. I added 2 periscopes and painted the deck black and the rest of the boat grey
I-201 1 part I added 2 periscopes and a snokel painted the deck black and the rest of the boat grey
I-121 2 parts the sub and a deck gun. I added 2 periscopes and painted the deck black and the rest of the boat grey
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JamesAPrattIII
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I am sorry I don't have the ability to post pics. In fact I have't taken any pic of them.
I have also finished the Aoshima 1/700 I-156 I have it the hopefully early WW II period.
The kit was built as is but I left off parts: A13,A18,A19,A23; A10 B12,B13, B15, B16. I have also not added the bow net cutter since I don't know when or if it was removed. Painted deck black rest of boat grey and did not bother with the lower hull. There is a second kit that I have not decided what to do with yet
I have also finished the Aoshima 1/700 I-156 I have it the hopefully early WW II period.
The kit was built as is but I left off parts: A13,A18,A19,A23; A10 B12,B13, B15, B16. I have also not added the bow net cutter since I don't know when or if it was removed. Painted deck black rest of boat grey and did not bother with the lower hull. There is a second kit that I have not decided what to do with yet
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Heaven One
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How was the rear mast of the I-400 rigged if at all? I have seen some depictions of a cage antenna being used but have also read comments saying these were not in use later in the war so the possibility of I-400 using one is impossible.
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As naval modeller, I build warships, many of them submarines.
I am in research of plans of the japanese submarine Ro-35.
I have found a book with may japanese warships plans , some of them submarines, and the Ro 35 is insde this beautiful book.
The problem is the very hight prices, no less than 400 euros!!!
O if someone have the plans/book of the submarine, I will be very grateful
The book is named Ship plans of the Imperial Japanese Navy Published by Hara-syo-bo.12/1987
Yhere are another edition from 1975, I think
I am in research of plans of the japanese submarine Ro-35.
I have found a book with may japanese warships plans , some of them submarines, and the Ro 35 is insde this beautiful book.
The problem is the very hight prices, no less than 400 euros!!!
O if someone have the plans/book of the submarine, I will be very grateful
The book is named Ship plans of the Imperial Japanese Navy Published by Hara-syo-bo.12/1987
Yhere are another edition from 1975, I think
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Dan K
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I can send you photos of those pages; the book is too big for my scanner.
I'll need you email address, either posted here or send me a PM.
Dan
I'll need you email address, either posted here or send me a PM.
Dan
- Joaquin
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Thank you Dan,
I have sent a PM to you
Joaqu�n
I have sent a PM to you
Joaqu�n
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ssn705
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Wow, that has to be an amazing book.
Dave
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I-124 wreck survey video / 3D model
Enjoy.
https://www.anzec.org/news/i-124-submarine-expedition
"In World War II Japan and Australia fought for control of the seas north of Australia. The I-124 Japanese submarine was laying mines and hunting ships outside Darwin Harbour when it was engaged by Australian forces. It was attacked and sunk to the seafloor. All 80 submariners perished. Lying 53 meters below the surface, the wreck is highly significant. But the Top End's strong tides, murky waters and the submarine's depth have made it impossible to visit. Until now. The Northern Territory Government led a team of archaeologists and ANZEC member technical divers Matt Carter, Steve Trewavas and Kasimir Zierl to inspect the iconic submarine, using the latest in technical diving equipment and innovative site recording tools. Armed with rebreathers and underwater scooters, watch the divers attempt to record the wreck, and experts build detailed 3D models. Follow the effort to record and understand one of the most significant wartime wrecks in Australian waters. We encourage you to watch there fascinating expedition documentary."
https://www.anzec.org/news/i-124-submarine-expedition
"In World War II Japan and Australia fought for control of the seas north of Australia. The I-124 Japanese submarine was laying mines and hunting ships outside Darwin Harbour when it was engaged by Australian forces. It was attacked and sunk to the seafloor. All 80 submariners perished. Lying 53 meters below the surface, the wreck is highly significant. But the Top End's strong tides, murky waters and the submarine's depth have made it impossible to visit. Until now. The Northern Territory Government led a team of archaeologists and ANZEC member technical divers Matt Carter, Steve Trewavas and Kasimir Zierl to inspect the iconic submarine, using the latest in technical diving equipment and innovative site recording tools. Armed with rebreathers and underwater scooters, watch the divers attempt to record the wreck, and experts build detailed 3D models. Follow the effort to record and understand one of the most significant wartime wrecks in Australian waters. We encourage you to watch there fascinating expedition documentary."
"We are off to look for trouble. I expect we shall find it." Capt. Tennant, HMS Repulse. 8 December 1941
"A review of the situation at about 1100 was not encouraging." Capt. Gordon, HMS Exeter. 1 March 1942
"A review of the situation at about 1100 was not encouraging." Capt. Gordon, HMS Exeter. 1 March 1942
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Re: Calling all WW2 IJN sub fans
Are there any available source that show how Japanese midget submarines were attached to the decks of their mother submarines? Photos, diagrams, illustrations, whatever, that give a somewhat detailed look. Thanks.
Fred Sirois
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Dan K
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An interesting, colorized photo of I-58, supposedly immediately postwar, that just popped up on a FB page. Of interest, note the cradles in front for kaitens.
Given the display of what appears to be a kill flag and the alleged postwar timing, I do wonder if this is AI generated. But the kaiten blocks are real.
Given the display of what appears to be a kill flag and the alleged postwar timing, I do wonder if this is AI generated. But the kaiten blocks are real.
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That image seems to have been "restored" - whether manually or by AI is uncertain. But here are two rougher versions, one larger than the one you posted so at least it's slightly closer to the original source:
Colour: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUFfQAJBsQg/
B&W: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/focus/2 ... of-the-war
Colour: https://www.instagram.com/p/CUFfQAJBsQg/
B&W: https://www.thestar.com.my/news/focus/2 ... of-the-war
De quoi s'agit-il?
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Dan K
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Thx, Timmy. I see the original source. So, an "improved" image. 
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The photo on Facebook seems to be "enhanced" by AI as there are many weird faces among the crew and some people even blended in with the uniforms behind them. The most obvious are the two guys in the uppermost right corner. The guy whos elbow is second from the top has melted into the uniform of the guy at the very top. If you examine the photo closer, many such cases can be found. A comparison to the original photo makes the AI crap obvious.
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Not to mention the twin headed sailor on the centre first row...