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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:52 am 
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That's an interesting article, EJFoeth, thanks!

Could it be that that the LORNA DOONE images were shot with lower shutter speed and that, therefore, the foam patterns overlap. Also it appears, that there is a certain 'burn-out' (overexposure) of the white foam.

And, as always: impressive modelling at this scale!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 1:26 pm 
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Hello gentlemen;

@ Iceman-- a most useful illustration....
scaling the image down to the actual size of the model
it would be tricky to emulate in miniature-; though I agree it
is probably correct...-- ** see @ wefalck below.... :scratch:

@ EJ Foeth.... I downloaded the article,
and read all the words between the pictures - twice... :big_grin:
now my head aches.... :thumbs_up_1:

@ wefalck I think you may be onto something with the
slower shutter-speed of large format cameras of the era
certainly the amount of white thrash disturbed water in
many of the old images indeed appears slightly blurred
==> anyhow- I like that reasoning ....
for my " artists impression " of the water :cool_2: :cool_2: :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 2:14 pm 
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It was not really possible to pan with the large view cameras of the time (usually 8x10). I have a 4x5 view camera and I would never pan with it! The latitude of the emulsions of the time were not great and foam would probably burn out. Another possibility is that a stationary ship had a "wake" retouched in somewhat crudely by painting the white area on to the emulsion with an opaque retouching material.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 2:45 am 
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I have nothing sensible to add to the interesting wake/photography discussion, but I can endorse this statement:
SG1 wrote:
Masterpiece (once again, oh yeah)! :cool_2:


It is great to see her coming together Jim! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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The wake article is a bit tongue in cheek, but you're not the first person to worry about paddle wheel wakes! We have surprisingly little information on this subject in our archives, most of of it ancient except this relatively new paper. Of course, nothing beats a few aerial pics and few ships have been so well captured in this regards as the images you've shown here. This vessel creates a wonderfully narrow diverging wave pattern; and then these odd paddle wheels..

And indeed, she's coming along very well!


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:30 pm 
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Hello all!

I have come Full circle again....

no more Macro 90mm foreshortening anymore !

back to basics with a ( new) Canon 50 mm lens on Eos 600D

no wide angle...everything neutral

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Very impressive! :thumbs_up_1:

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Simply fantastic! What a beautiful little jewel of a model! A true inspiration! :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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Excellent and very inspiring :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 7:18 am 
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Hear hear! Superb work, that shot from the stern is particularly good :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:42 am 
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very fine model! very inspiring :wave_1:

The water looks excellent and convincing. One day I will try out your method (or a water scape for that matter...)

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A little jewel sailing towards the Isle of Wight, Jim. Image

You've succeeded in making us dream again!

What's next Doc? Image :big_grin:

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2023 11:32 am 
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Hi Jim

Well.... It is another JimB beautiful model!
No need to say anything more, right? :cool_2:

Congrats!
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Wonderful!!! :thumbs_up_1:
Congrats on your new beautiful model!!! :smallsmile:

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Such a beautiful little gem!
The paintjob of thin, contrasting lines along the hull sharpens the appearance to a great extent.
With the passengers and the seascape it is very atmospheric too.
Congrats on creating another masterpiece!
And yes, what's next?


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Quite evokes the atmosphere of a warm summer day on an excursion steamer :cool_1:

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Quite evokes the atmosphere of a warm summer day on an excursion steamer


That's exactly right. Beautifully done, Jim.


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Thank you Gentlemen!

your words of praise are much appreciated.
My next project has been selected ...usual odd ball, scartch built in 1/700

will appear soon!
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Beautifully done, Jim! Awesome work on a cool and unique subject, not that I am surprised.

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Great work Jim, another masterpiece!
With your reduced activity here, one would forget who the real master is :heh:

So when are you finally retired, so you can spoil us with more of your work ??? :big_grin:

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