I am looking to model canvas wind breaking dodgers mounted in normal pipe railings. I like to mimic the look of canvas being pushed in by wind in between the pipe rails, so the pattern of the pipe railing shows through as bumps on the canvas. I am thinking about using thin soft paper further softened with water, and then stiffened with Elmer Glue on PE railing, and then painted to achieve canvas color. I am working with 1/200 scale.
Anyone have any experience or suggestions? For example what type of paper to use?
Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
I've used 13.5lb paper for printing 1/700 flags.
You could try it, but I think it would still be too stiff, although, I've never wetted it.
You could also try tissue paper or rice paper.
Personally, I would try a regular facial tissue first.
The 13.5lb paper comes in a 9"x12" pad of 50 sheets, Borden & Riley, #37 Boris Bright white Layout Translucent visual bond.
You could try it, but I think it would still be too stiff, although, I've never wetted it.
You could also try tissue paper or rice paper.
Personally, I would try a regular facial tissue first.
The 13.5lb paper comes in a 9"x12" pad of 50 sheets, Borden & Riley, #37 Boris Bright white Layout Translucent visual bond.
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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
Could do the Jim Baumann method: just span some white glue (thinned if necessary) between the railing bars and stanchions so they fill the space. Might even be able to place it in an orientation that causes it to "sag" in a desired direction, though honestly they always seemed a bit taut to me.
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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
At 1/200 Jim Baumann's method may not work due to to wide span between stanchions, but it could be worth a try.
I have obtained 9 g / sqm silk-paper from a book-restorers supply-house.

This is so far the thinnest paper I have come across. for the time being I used it to make boat covers in 1/160 scale. The paper was cut to shape and then draped over the boat with the aid of zapon-varnish. This stiffens the paper and glues it to the boat. It then can be (spray-)painted using acrylics:


I have obtained 9 g / sqm silk-paper from a book-restorers supply-house.

This is so far the thinnest paper I have come across. for the time being I used it to make boat covers in 1/160 scale. The paper was cut to shape and then draped over the boat with the aid of zapon-varnish. This stiffens the paper and glues it to the boat. It then can be (spray-)painted using acrylics:


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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
It'll work - I got it to span the sunshade awnings covering the entire aft deck of my 1/700 Missouri back in the 2000s, and the spaces between are way larger than any 1/200 railing gaps: http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.htmlwefalck wrote:At 1/200 Jim Baumann's method may not work due to to wide span between stanchions, but it could be worth a try.
Admittedly my then-teenage modeling skills don't quite do justice to the appearance, but it shows the method works at this scale.
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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
Hi chums!
White glue--with a "RIGGER " paintbrush will span up to 1.5 inches or more
these are awnings on my 1/192 Panay ( poor old 35 mm film prints scanned!)

this image below shows the dodgers in 1/192 ( ergo = 1/200 )
the trick is to paint the railings FIRST, then apply THINNED ( 50/50 ) white glue
White glue dries completely clear-- so you paint the OUTSIDE -that way the contrasting colours
of rail and dodgers have perfect colour separation and demarcation!


Hope to help
Jim Baumann
White glue--with a "RIGGER " paintbrush will span up to 1.5 inches or more
these are awnings on my 1/192 Panay ( poor old 35 mm film prints scanned!)

this image below shows the dodgers in 1/192 ( ergo = 1/200 )
the trick is to paint the railings FIRST, then apply THINNED ( 50/50 ) white glue
White glue dries completely clear-- so you paint the OUTSIDE -that way the contrasting colours
of rail and dodgers have perfect colour separation and demarcation!


Hope to help
Jim Baumann
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Re: Thin paper for model canvas dodgers
Another thought: try "Rizla" cigarette papers if you live in the UK.
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