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Hi Brett, I hope you're well? My only comment is that I think something has gone awry on the 50/50 digital sample. I downloaded your image to check the RBG values and whilst the 507C is bang on, the 507A is our NARN20 which is at its lightest tolerance (which is fine) but the reason there doesn't appear much difference between the 507A and 50/50 is that somehow the values have wandered downwards somewhere along the way.

I hope you don't mind but I've adjusted it a bit to show 507A at its nominal 10% RF appearance and fixed the 50/50 RGB values, so now they relate a bit better to one another.

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James Duff
Sovereign Hobbies Ltd
http://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk

Current build:
HMS Imperial D09 1/350
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167151

Perfect James, thankyou for correcting, it did look a bit dark.
Mk I eyeball says it now looks close to the original WEM 507B.

Indeed it is. There are a couple of data points documented which indicate that the 50/50 mix should land at approximately 20% LRV. When I made linseed oil samples of 507A and C to the published formulae I mixed the results in equal parts and also got fairly close to this value. I'm not sure by what roundabout way it happened, but the Snyder & Short 507B chip measures out under spectrophotometer with a Light Reflectance Value of 19.6%, so I'd say your Mk.1 Eyeball is correctly calibrated today!

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James Duff
Sovereign Hobbies Ltd
http://www.sovereignhobbies.co.uk

Current build:
HMS Imperial D09 1/350
http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=167151

Hello, thanks for all your help with the paint schemes. I ended up choosing these three paints. It is nearly four hour return to the hobby shop and I don’t have a lot of time! Not completely happy but it was the closest I could find in a spray can,
Cheers will

Hello all,
I am hoping this is an image of the HMAS Waterhen. Can anyone clarify and hopefully have a better quality copy of it?
Cheers Will

It is HMAS Voyager at Coffs Harbour, 8th Aug 1938.

Thankyou Brett,
still gives some good detail for my Waterhen - was looking for what sort of equipment was inside the searchlight tower amongst other things,
Cheers, Will

Will, the only equipment within the platform was the searchlight. From `as fitted` drawings it appears there were two sizes of that particular projector, 21" and 24" Waterhen was fitted with a 24" and it was still fitted when she went down. I do not know what Mk this WW1 vintage S.L. was, and full clear images of it`s layout are very hard to find. Here are two images of the projector, both are of V Leaders, there was an operator platform towards the base of the pedestal.

Hello all,
a question about the stern of the HMAS Waterhen at the time of her loss - what sort of depth charge set up did she have, if any - the stern looks rather bare to me, if anyone can advise - I am still plugging away with my 1/35 scale,
Cheers,
Will

2 rails, each of 4 DC canister capacity.

Thanks alot Brett,
do you have any other reference images of the Waterhen, I have not seen that stern one before and think there must be alot more? (hopefully)
Cheers,
will

I had uploaded the full cropped image for you a little over 3 years ago on `HMAS in Scale` did you not download it Will?

Thanks Brett,
I am not sure but thanks again. Looking at that image it looks to me like one single depth charge rack is definitely on the centreline (right circle) and a single depth charge ready to be rolled off to its left (left hand arrow). Some allied warships did have the single rack. Is it documented somewhere that she had the two and not the one?. I have built a single rack for my ship and await your reply,
Cheers,
Will

Images can be very deceiving Will, it is apparent that there was very little room on the stern of a V and W. The only thing on the centreline was the towing slip with a fairlead either side. I suggest what you see is two 4 DC canister rails, what may look like an extra single DC cradle immediately outboard of the port rail is likely the deck stock holding DC reloads. Whilst many ships were fitted with a single DC stern rail, that was not the case with RAN V and W`s, all were fitted with two 4 canister rails after removal of the paravave gantries.

I believe the picture was not taken from directly astern but a little off the port side. and that the pennant number would be centralised across the stern, so the actual centre would be about between the 'I' and the '2' about where the '.(dot)' is.
Tom

Thankyou gentlemen, I will now build another four canister rack!
Cheers,
Will

I think you will find the centreline on the Waterhen`s stern shot passes through the middle of the prefix 2. The towing slip was directly on the centreline with the strbd fairlead being closer to it. This image of Vampire in DD illustrates perfectly, the small stern scuttle was on the port side of centre.

How wold the operator release a DC from a rail?
Was there a lever or pedal or wheel or something?
Tom