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PostPosted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 8:08 pm 
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find the abl dimensions then use this drawing to get the scale to make them.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 05, 2024 6:01 pm 
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FFG-7 wrote:
find the abl dimensions then use this drawing to get the scale to make them.


7.06 m long and 2.13 m wide and 2.03 m high


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 10:53 am 
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I made these on my 1:192 Missouri and probably have pix somewhere of them from the hundreds of photos I took on board.


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Hi, please I would like to know if that turrets of Flyhawk has the correct shape and measures for using them in a 1/350 Iowa.
I was navigating on the web but I can´t find any review.
Many thanks.


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 4:39 pm 
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lexington1709 wrote:
FFG-7 wrote:
at that scale, you can make the abl out of solid square tube plastic or similar. I am going to redo the 1 I made back in the 90's using that same Revell model before I had the plans that I now have of that ship.
BB-62 USS New Jersey Booklet of General Plans (1984) https://archive.org/details/bb62bogp1984
https://archive.org/details/ship-design ... collection


I've been looking for the booklet on one of the modernized ships.... thanks!

How would you go about in making the launchers?



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 07, 2024 6:17 pm 
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I had two versions for my 1:192 Missouri: The first episode I made a master and cast them with some PE used for grab rails etc. Later on I 3D designed and printed them.

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For those of you interested in the 1980s "Phase II" plans, the Battleship New Jersey Museum recently opened a box of official documents regarding those plans. You can find videos about them, including scans, on their YouTube page:

https://www.youtube.com/@BattleshipNewJersey/videos

I might build the "add just a hangar and a couple VLS" upgrade, which seems a reasonable and useful improvement without requiring significant structure changes.
The flight decks all seem overly complex, and don't add capacity the USN didn't already have.

Joe C-P


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 16, 2024 6:07 pm 
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I am trying to find references that show the locations of the various AA gun directors on the New Jersey during 1944, and again in 1952-3 off Korea.

For the former I'm converting the Tamiya Iowa using the Model Monkey bridge, which worked pretty well (the MM parts were slightly fragile in my thick fingers, but that's not on them, just be careful.) Unfortunately the AA directors are plain rods, so I will use pieces from detail sets to make it more accurate.
For Korea it's easier since the ship was light grey rather than dark blue, which helps me see what is where.

None of my reference books have a guide, and I haven't found one online, not even a list of directors and their counts from which I could infer.

Can anyone help? Either an online site or a pointer to a book will be helpful.

Thanks.


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JoeP wrote:
I am trying to find references that show the locations of the various AA gun directors on the New Jersey during 1944, and again in 1952-3 off Korea.

For the former I'm converting the Tamiya Iowa using the Model Monkey bridge, which worked pretty well (the MM parts were slightly fragile in my thick fingers, but that's not on them, just be careful.) Unfortunately the AA directors are plain rods, so I will use pieces from detail sets to make it more accurate.
For Korea it's easier since the ship was light grey rather than dark blue, which helps me see what is where.

None of my reference books have a guide, and I haven't found one online, not even a list of directors and their counts from which I could infer.

Can anyone help? Either an online site or a pointer to a book will be helpful.

Thanks.


After the 1945 refit, I see two mk57 dirs fwd of the aft stack with the rest mk51.
Probably all were mk57 before that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 11:07 am 
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bigjimslade wrote:
JoeP wrote:
I am trying to find references that show the locations of the various AA gun directors on the New Jersey during 1944, and again in 1952-3 off Korea.

For the former I'm converting the Tamiya Iowa using the Model Monkey bridge, which worked pretty well (the MM parts were slightly fragile in my thick fingers, but that's not on them, just be careful.) Unfortunately the AA directors are plain rods, so I will use pieces from detail sets to make it more accurate.
For Korea it's easier since the ship was light grey rather than dark blue, which helps me see what is where.

None of my reference books have a guide, and I haven't found one online, not even a list of directors and their counts from which I could infer.

Can anyone help? Either an online site or a pointer to a book will be helpful.

Thanks.


After the 1945 refit, I see two mk57 dirs fwd of the aft stack with the rest mk51.
Probably all were mk57 before that.


Thanks for the guideline, that does help me interpret the pictures.

Now I have another question, about a platform and radar unit on the front of her tower. It's visible in this image:

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The one on the U/V shaped platform projecting from the front - what radar is that? I cannot find it in my references, there's nothing like that in my PE sets.


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Looks like a double sided or back to back SG radar.
Maybe an SU radar?

Based on this reddit post, it should be an SG radar:
https://www.reddit.com/r/WarshipPorn/co ... e_control/


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 2:17 pm 
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The image you posted isn't showing up when I open this thread, so this is just a guess - here is a photo of NEW JERSEY in the early '50s, front of her conning tower -
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That's not an SG type RADAR, but the "TDY-1" antenna. Her 1955 Booklet of General Plans shows this antenna still installed on that platform.

Here is a shot of the drawing of that RADAR unit -
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I think somewhere I read that this unit could also be a "back to back" antenna, as well - but, don't take my word for it.

Hope this helps!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2025 4:10 pm 
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Alaska CB1 also had this TDY-1 installed on the forward of her coning tower.


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Another drawing of the TDY-1 RADAR JAMMING SYSTEM

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:29 pm 
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That helps, now I know what it is I recognize it.

Now I need to find one. Does anyone reading this have a 1/700 TDY set to spare?

Joe


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:16 pm 
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Pretty dinky item at 1:700! The ones I printed at 1:192 were small enough!

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Under the "wah hail" clause of modeling I am yet again replace all the 5" mounts on my 1:192 Scratch built Missouri. I currently have the same mounts that I have on my 1:192 Alaska, which are wrong in several details, the most obvious being the training buffer on the front glacis. Hank was generous enough to furnish me with a file for his NJ ones which I rescaled to 1:192 and made a few other changes. I use magnets to hold my mounts on which allows for easy removal.

Biggest issue? Matching the paint.


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