Calling all IJN Carrier fans (class comparisons)

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Mykman
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Wow, I have not dreamed of more reference images from Akagi. Nice find ! :)
So its correct after all ! Thanks !
Could you tell me please which publication were the photos coming from ?
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Great pic. Now that I see it, I actually think it's taken from a video shot either post Pearl Harbor or one of the raids after that. I recall this view from that video.

That's Fuchida's aircraft. He's in the middle seat and has not exited yet. His pilot is just standing up.
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Hello. the information over Akagi island is in the Vessel Model Special n 78. Winter 2020 MODELART

If you need any more information, please give me.
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The article is how the author used CAD and historical information to chart changes to Akagi's modernized bridge. The area in question is based on that one photo, and Kaga. Not that it's wrong, just not well docoumented.
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Don't think it's PH since they are in summer gear...Probably sometime later during First stage ops, I guess.
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horner wrote:Hello. the information over Akagi island is in the Vessel Model Special n 78. Winter 2020 MODELART

If you need any more information, please give me.
Thanks ! My copies are on the way to me :)
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Another photograph...
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Mykman
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thanks , great photo !
So it seems at least the lower part was like this indeed !
I tried to look through the kure maritime museum online photo galery , and strangely they have only the 3 deck version photos/ some plans avaiable not the rebuilt version. Also they had some amagi drawings / notes.
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Agreed, great photo. New to me.
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Buenos d�as,
2 nuevas fotograf�as de la isla del Akagi
Espero sirva de ayuda. Saludos
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Mykman
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Great pics ! Are these from the same magazine ? Mine will arrive next week.
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Second pic from top is Nagumo's Chief of Staff, Kusaka.
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No. Estas fotograf�as son del n� 77 de Vessel Model Special, oto�o 2020
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G-Opt wrote:Don't think it's PH since they are in summer gear...Probably sometime later during First stage ops, I guess.
I read Kido Butai officers were in blue winter uniforms at Midway because the normal uniform change wax June 1 but since they were at sea the IJN admiralty delayed implementation. I�ve read it more than one place but can�t quote the exact chapter and verse anymore.
My CO prior to flying to the boomer: Our goals on this patrol is to shoot missiles and torpedoes.
Me Jr Lt Capt, don’t we really want to be like Monty Python and not be seen?
LT you seem to be missing the big picture
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because the normal uniform change wax June 1 but since they were at sea the IJN admiralty delayed implementation.
That may be true, but I would think some accommodation would have been made for climate, depending on an operation's location.

Great photos, btw.
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Sorry if this was asked elsewhere, but does anyone know if the escort carrier conversions (Taiyo, Kaiyo) had steel or wood-planked decks?
- Greg
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There's been a lot of discussions, and mixed opinions, about whether any of these vessels had wood planking. The assumption was that the Taiyos did, but maybe not the others.

Photographs of Taiyo's deck in Oct. 1942 shows no planking, only what appears to be a latex -type covering over plating. Post-war photos of Kaiyo are not conclusive, but it doesn't look like she had planking, either.

So, I think that a latex covered metal is most likely for all of them.
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Dan K wrote:There's been a lot of discussions, and mixed opinions, about whether any of these vessels had wood planking. The assumption was that the Taiyos did, but maybe not the others.

Photographs of Taiyo's deck in Oct. 1942 shows no planking, only what appears to be a latex -type covering over plating. Post-war photos of Kaiyo are not conclusive, but it doesn't look like she had planking, either.

So, I think that a latex covered metal is most likely for all of them.

Thanks, Dan!
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Great depiction, but that is not a primary source.

This is a primary source, below.
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