Calling all USS Nevada BB-36 and USS Oklahoma BB-37 fans
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
what time period as in pre 1920's modernization, post modernization or post Pearl Harbour?
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Anything's good, really, but I was specifically looking at the Pearl Nevadas. Though anything else would still be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
what drawings do you have already of that class?
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
All the versions of the BoGPs I could find.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Thanks I'll take a look at it.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Greetings folks, I am here once again to ask for your invaluable insight. Either there's a discrepancy between the BoGP for Oklahoma and her actual state in Pearl on 12/7, or working so many hours has fried my brain. There are rangefinders on both #2 and #3 turrets, which coincidentally seem to be the exact same on Okie's turrets, but on Nevada are installed only on #3 and #2's rangefinder has a slightly different 'ear' shape to its extremities, but nonetheless. That's not what I wanted to get at, just an observation I wanted to point out.
My problem stems from the position on the BoGP of said rangefinders. That on turret #3 seems to be offset from the longitudinal axis of the turret, but looking at pictures of the ship during and after the righting process I can't make out if that's actually the case. In fact, it does seem to me as if both rangefinders are centred on the ship's (and the turrets') centreline.
It wouldn't be the first time a Booklet has not been faithful to its subject 100%, but still I don't feel like the pictures provide me with a definitive answer either way; at least I haven't been able to find one with a resolution good enough to tell. Please help?
My problem stems from the position on the BoGP of said rangefinders. That on turret #3 seems to be offset from the longitudinal axis of the turret, but looking at pictures of the ship during and after the righting process I can't make out if that's actually the case. In fact, it does seem to me as if both rangefinders are centred on the ship's (and the turrets') centreline.
It wouldn't be the first time a Booklet has not been faithful to its subject 100%, but still I don't feel like the pictures provide me with a definitive answer either way; at least I haven't been able to find one with a resolution good enough to tell. Please help?
We can have all of the resources in the world and still get it wrong. Not out of any incompetence, it's just because of how difficult it is sometimes to implement a physical feature without having seen it with your own two eyes. - the Chieftain
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
The #3 turret rangefinder extended on one side to clear the catapult. This was pointed out after I had built my #3 turret for my Oklahoma build.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
ModelFunShipyard, your bottom picture shows the #3 rangefinder is off center to the turret's centerline which matches the BoGP.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Thanks all, that's what I suspected but was unsure of because I couldn't see it clearly in the pictures.
We can have all of the resources in the world and still get it wrong. Not out of any incompetence, it's just because of how difficult it is sometimes to implement a physical feature without having seen it with your own two eyes. - the Chieftain
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
no problem.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Greetings folks, does anyone have a picture of the 14' punts that were located on top of Oklahoma's locker at the base of the mainmast? I can't seem to find absolutely any, for the life of me. Thanks all.
We can have all of the resources in the world and still get it wrong. Not out of any incompetence, it's just because of how difficult it is sometimes to implement a physical feature without having seen it with your own two eyes. - the Chieftain
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Sheet 3 - Outboard Profile shows the profile of the punt & Sheet 5 - Bridges & Superstructure Deck shows the topview of the punt in Oklahoma's Booklet of General Plans 1941.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Yeah, those two I have, but I guess it being a small boat it does have an interior of some kind? Well, not interior, but some kind of detail of the inside of the hull like the usual boats have - rowing banks or the like. I would rather not have it look like an undefined blob of some kind, if possible, but I will go with just the overall shape from the BoGP if nothing better is available.
We can have all of the resources in the world and still get it wrong. Not out of any incompetence, it's just because of how difficult it is sometimes to implement a physical feature without having seen it with your own two eyes. - the Chieftain
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
check with member Jeff Sharp as he might have or know how to get those 14' punt pictures.
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Re: Calling all USS Nevada class (BB-36) fans
Thanks.
We can have all of the resources in the world and still get it wrong. Not out of any incompetence, it's just because of how difficult it is sometimes to implement a physical feature without having seen it with your own two eyes. - the Chieftain
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