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1/700 LNG carrier Excel

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Just a teaser message!
I've restarted the 1/700 LNG carrier I started a while ago. Back then it proved to be very difficult to construct the strong lines and bow. Now, seeing the hull standing there partially finished on my room, I decided to continue the build.
I'm waiting with the hull as I'm still in contact with the officers of the real ship. I'm waiting for the C/O to return home, because he has the plans of the bow frames copied at home.
The main deck was already there, so I started to build from there on. Progress has been fast, yet now, with all the detailing, things are slowing down a LOT.
Here's the real one:
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But as I said, just a teaser.
I'll post some pictures tomorrow (maybe :big_grin: )

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Hey no teasing. Post some more. :thumbs_up_1:
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ohoh, you're the boss :big_grin:
Here is some stuff. Next to her is the unfinished Slava class Marshal Ustinov.

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The scale is killing me though.

The grey things on the main deck are pieces of sprue, they are the vapordomes on each tank. A Vapordome is where the gas vapor (at about -155�C) collects before it goes to the boiler (boil off method) where it is burned as fuel for the steam turbines.

The big "box" on the "sloop" (cargo deck) is the compressor room. It basically accomodates very large ventilators that blow the gas through the pipelines and hence create more vaporisation in the tanks. Used only in very rare occasions during discharging operations.

The other locker is a cargo locker, where the spare cargo pump and manifold filters are located.

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Roel, Its beginning to take shape, looking good, :thumbs_up_1: :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo: now you know what we have to put up with. :lol_3: :lol_3:
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Hi Roel A very unusual subject and at 1:700 , I also like the Slava in the fore ground. Press on I'd like to see your project progress .
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Oh Ron, are we getting self flattering here??? I know what you're up to and have expressed my admiration for it. But you have automatic saws and gnomes to help you! I only have a stanley knife and only a few plans. And I'm building it in a scale that would fit the entire ship on one of your gunturrets! Nonetheless I love your ships more than this malformed piece of plastic...

Dave I'm indeed pressing on for once. The Slava is under construction for quite a while too, a Sovremenny is also waiting for progress. This afternoon I've stuck the sloop deck to its supports on the main deck. The straight part of the sloped sides is also stuck to the supports and main deck.

One note though, Revell Putty makes styrene liquid! I tried to use it to fill a gap in my bridge structure and the styrene seemed to melt! I guess I'll have to buy the expensive Tamiya putty to fix the rest of this ship?
I do wonder why it happened on that bridge and not on the stern which I've nearly fully constructed out of putty on top of styrene pieces...

I have also figured out how to do most of the pipelines! I'm back in the city for school now, so I won't model! Luckily wednessday there is a holiday and thursday and friday are off at school too, more time to build this baby!
Unusual yes, but I've sailed this ship for about a month during a training trip, so for me it's not that unusual.

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There looks nothing wrong with that piece of plastic, just keep building, :thumbs_up_1:
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Hello everybody,

I've done quite some work since the last pictures. I have added the sloped sides, stuck the compressor room to the deck and added the supports which rest on the sloped side.
Apart from that I have added various parts like Dry Powder cabinets (which house the large dry powder tankers for fire extinguishing) and the vents of the passage way. On both sides, just underneath the sloped side you have a passage way. They need ventilation when you enter them as they are "enclosed spaces". So you need to have fresh air and more specific the oxygen :big_grin: . I also added the main mast near the bow resting on the forward part of the sloop deck going down to the main deck.
I also figured out where the vent masts are compared to the Vapor Domes. Although i haven't built them yet. The largest Vent Masts have a 1mm diameter in this scale, yet there is always a back up vent mast attached to it and that one has a smaller diameter. I can manage 1mm, but nothing smaller than that...
Stretched sprue always works out too thin!

I will soon go on with the accomodation, adding the windows and doors. After that I can place it on the main deck and start adding the lifeboat deck and outside parts of the B deck. Then I suppose I'll get to the pipelines :mad_1:

We'll see...Tomorrow more pics of the progress.
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Wow! Good progress, good looking monster. I guess I know PE set next to the Slava!
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Post by klein loewietje »

Neptune, I'll give you some brass rod I've laying around in Antwerp, it's stronger than sprue, and I have some that's smaller than 1mm.
Might work for the back-up mast vents!
Doing a great job :thumbs_up_1: , see you in A'pen, Johan :wave_1:
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That would be great although I can't think of any brass tubing narrower than 1mm... I guess I'll see, that could help me with the HFO lines too as these are slightly narrower than the cargo lines (which have isolation all around).

No pics yet, it'll be for this evening I guess.
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Looks nice! Just a question: what material doe you make this from? Sice I can't exactly see what it is... (polyester or paper)
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Found this site today:
http://www.maritimereplicas.com/tankersAndCarriers.htm

I am building it from styrene sheets. Large white plastic sheets, I bought 2mm, 1.5mm, 0.75 and 0.5mm sheets. The deck and the frames are made out of 2mm and 1.5mm sheets. The side plates of the hull too. The superstructure is mainly made out of 0.75 and 0.5mm.

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Hi Roel,
the hull appears to be flat. Or did you have problems with warping? Do you the same method to build the hull than I used on Guangzhou and Lanzhou? Are those 1 mm or 2 mm thick sheets?

Perhaps I got only problems, because I made the bow and the stern solid? The solid parts in my hulls always contain to much solvent (thinner of the glue, thinner in the putty).

You produced in contrast a perfect hull.
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Maxim, that only appears so. It's not flat at all...
Yet no warping though. The waterline and main deck are 2mm styrene sheets, the sides are 1.5mm.
On my Talwar, which is a solid one, I had no warping either...
Maybe it's the glue you use? I have figured out that my glue is sticking well, but when I want to cut something off, it allows me do to that quite clean. So it's not sticking THAT well. But I'm happy with what it does, no warping so far.

The work on the accomodation is taking me longer than I expected, I don't like cutting all those windows. I can't cut them out, but as windows on ships are rather sticking out of the hull I'm cutting seperate windows of 0.5mm styrene. Afterwards I sand it off to make it even less thick. It still is out of proportion though.
Nearly, finished, on to the bridgewings now. Then the house goes on, like when they built the real one.
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Enough teasing I guess.
Here are two new pictures. With the brand new manifold part amidships. Still needs its supports though and reshaping to fit the sides of the ship.

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And of course the rest of the selection. The particularily bad Sovremenny, the Slava and the finished Peter the Great.

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Looking very good, can i ask a question please, what color do you use on your Russian ships?
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The colour for the Russian ships is Revell 57. It's really dark in the beginning, but it fades pretty rapidly! With my slow construction progress I sometimes have to repaint the hull, because the detailing took so much time that the hull colour already faded and any patches with the same colour are VERY visible...

Here is another minor update.
Maybe you can put this one in the scratchbuilding forum too. I'll take a few pics with the main deck off too. It's generally the same construction as Maxim's Luyang classes.

So here is what I did now:
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Yeah, Jim B. I know the windows are out of proportion :heh: I should have cut them from some left over PE framing... I cut them now from 0.5mm styrene and after gluing I sanded the whole bunch off to get them thinner. PE would't have been nice though... I wanted to fit some spare PE watertight doors in the lowest floor of the accomodation (as that is the only place where there are watertight doors, all upper decks are just weathertight ones).

I also simplified the deck lay-out a bit. I just mounted these supports at equal intervals. In real they are at more unequal intervals and very hard to count, even from onboard pictures! The shape isn't really exact either, but at this scale it is hard to get it better. (these supports are just 1mm high).
I have mounted the crane stands, but not the jibs themselves, because just in front of them, there is a lot of transverse piping to the loading manifold on the sides. So the cranes will have to wait untill the end.
Now she's more or less ready for the first big pipework on deck, although I'll first paint the sloop deck before I start it.
The dark spot of paint was just a test to see if the Revell 57 was light enough. In a month or two it might be, but I'm not going to wait for that.
I'll just pick a more realistic colour.


The transverse pieces lines you see are pieces of stretched sprue, they represent the heating system for the cofferdams. These are spaces between the tanks that have to prevent one tank from leaking into another one. They are free of gas and due to the cold cargo on both sides very cold. Before you enter these spaces (happens very rarely), they are heated via these transverse pipes.

Not too far from each vapor dome you can see the small round plates more to the centreline. These are where the pumps are below. Those are the places where the pipelines enter the tank to the pump. So that is where I will put the pipelines (once again simplified) in on my model. In reality the place is much smaller, but I'm not Jim Baumann am I?
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Here's the weekly update:

I've realised that I cannot proceed until I paint the main deck. Otherwise I would have to paint below the main pipelines and between the superstructure and funnel casing. So I've been looking for the right colour (and of course because I was curious how it would look). It's a bit too dark now, so I'll have to add some more white, but it gives an idea...

Of course before I can paint the grey decks. I have to add the details, hatches, bollards, winches etc. I've glued the bollard plates on. They are 3mmx1mmx 0.5mm. I will then sand them off to get them a tid bit thinner. Afterwards I will add the standing cilinders on top.

I've also started the winches. Those winches are pretty big in reality and mostly full of steel wire, so I've just cut some parts of Sprue to make them. The sides, gearboxes, will be made of 0.5mm and the part between the two drums is a narrower piece of tubing (the diameter I will use for the main pipelines too). I still have to make several more winches so it'll take some time before this detailing is finished. I'm also looking at how to make a lifeboat in this scale... And I have to add the Balast tank vents too.

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Here are some other under constuction pics. As you can see I've made it according to the Maxim method :wave_1: :
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But due to the strong curves I have used a lot of putty. This is Revell putty, hence the rough look. I will soon get some Tamiya stuff to get this fixed.
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Can't help but detailing so I've added the counterweight that helps to open these heavy hatches. I found out I could have done better...

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And here is a top view:
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Post by William J »

Nice work Roel

Keep it up

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