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Just be glad you're not a Congressman... it could be a long drive in to the Capitol in your sleep.

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-- "A Nation at Risk" (1983)

Back on topic...

I got kicked out of the tv room by my parents when they were watching the "first time on television" showing of Midway (must be about 30 years ago now). I kept pointing out how all the stock footage was sooooo wrong for that battle...

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...when you point out to your friends which ww2 battle is being re-enacted with x-wings in Star Wars...

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Yeah, but that was the first movie I ever saw that had accurate cruisers and destroyers (in color) during the Dolittle raid.

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If an unfriendly power had attempted to impose on America the mediocre educational performance that exists today, we might well have viewed it as an act of war.

-- "A Nation at Risk" (1983)

Most of the Midway attack footage was cut from "Tora Tora Tora". In fact, in one scene you can see the top of one of the battleships masts.

All of the Doolittle raid was cut from "Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo".

Bob

Haha, one time at a hotel a group of friends and i were fliping through the channels and we came upon Top Gun. During the action scenes i was like THOSE ARENT MIGS!!!!! Everyone got kind of annoyed.....hehe.

Yes, a whole generation has grown up thinking the Japanese used angle-decked carriers and Dauntless dive bombers.

If you think the F-20s made lousey MIGs, I saw one movie (I think it was titled "Hotshots II") where F4 Phantom IIs were supposed to be Russian MIGs. At least the Tiger IIs were small and pointy like a MIG-21. Nothing in the world looks anything like a Phantom, and it was really annoying to see one with those red stars on it.

At least in "Tora, Tora, Tora" they used modified AT-6 Texans to represent Zeros, and came pretty close, in my opinion.

Best effort was "The Battle of Britian" with real-life Me-109s, He-111s, and Spitfires. Small detail changes, would take a real nitpicker to notice. Wonder whatever happened to them?

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Les Foran
On the Oregon Trail

Les, if correct the me-109's & he-111's were actually spanish aircraft using merlin engines.

That's right. The Spanish had finally gotten around to phasing these out, and a movie prop company bought oodles of them. When they were shown parked or flying, row upon row, that was no computer graphic.

Enough for a whole Luftwaffe for some tinhorn despot to terrorize his neighbors with. Makes me wonder what ever became of them..would have made fine museum pieces or airshow warbirds, even with RR engines.

I suppose those were the planes left over from the days when Hitler thought Franco was in his pocket. I'm sure the Merlins were a fine upgrade.

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Les Foran
On the Oregon Trail

I believe the Commemorative Air Force (formerly known as Confederate Air Force) has a 'Spanish' He-111 and Me-109 in flying condition.

Texans as Zero can work. Texans as Me-109 NOT. See Dutch movie epics Soldier of Orange and recently Blackbook. It's a disgrace.

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If all else fails, a complete pig-headed refusal to see facts in the face will see us through. - General Melchett

the Confederate Air Force changed its name!? when?

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Kenny,

This happened a few years ago when they were trying to be politically correct. I had been a fan of theirs up until then.

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Les Foran
On the Oregon Trail

The Imperial War Museum at RAF Duxford had a real Bf-109E flying for several years (put together from parts of two acft downed during the Battle of Britain). As I understand it, the RAF wanted it back for their museum at RAF Hendon. Its last flight was with an RAF Air Marshal at the controls... Well, he flipped it and bent some sheet metal.

The last time I was at Duxford (1998), they had a Spanish He-111 that they were just starting to restore to flyable condition.

I never have seen the CAF, but I went to Duxford many times and saw most of their collection flying at one time or another.

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Very Fire 1/350 USS Brmingham

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Trumpeter 1/350 USS North Carolina
Trumpeter 1/16 T-72B
Andy's HHQ 1/16 M4A3E8
Das Werk 1/16 Panzer III Ausf. J
Das Werk 1/16 StuG III Ausf. G

Hello
Yes , you are a history knoweverything when the tenn daugther said something about like this: thast only my Father could know abaout.
Or when you are at the museum and people began to stick with you ...
Best regards.

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haha, thats happened to me too! half the time i'm informing the tour guide.

i've also had it when my holocaust teacher verified all her information in the lessons with me everyday before class began!

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Sounds like a cruise I took around Sandiego bay on a choir tour my senior year. The captain/crew were giving facts about the military installations around the area as they drove us around. My friend and I stood on the bow and corrected most everything they said, unfortnantly (or luckily for them) they couldn't hear us at all. I mean, honestly, one of the guys was talking about a mooring quay and he said "if you notice those big cement blocks over there by the island, we like to call those 'big cement blocks'...." real intelligent...

And I've been tour guide before for my friends...

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