Calling all Iowa-class (BB-61) fans

Starfreak07 · Post by **Starfreak07** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:23 pm

I have a couple of questions, i am sorry if they have been asked or answered before.. I am planning ahead and getting stuff, not gonna be getting all of it at once..

I am gonna be building a Tamiya USS Missouri 1/350 in late war config, i am gonna be getting L'Arsenal Foredeck Upgrade set, verious PE sets as well as a few other bits an pieces.

Has anyone used the BMK US 16"/50 Barrels?? If so are they easy to install??

Secondly what was the plane on the rear of the ship?? I have been looking at the L'Arsenal 1/350 Curtiss Seahawk to replace the kit planes. Will these be correct for 1944-45?

Is there anything i should be thinking about getting for it?

Tracy White · Post by **Tracy White** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:04 pm

She certainly had the SC-1's by the time of the surrender ceremony, but I don't know when she received them. Lots of photos of her without aircraft at NHC....

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:10 pm

Hi Guys,
Hi Starfreak07,
How far do you want to go?
The L'Arsenal goodies list just keeps on growing. The 16"50 barrels available today, I have not seen, but if they're like any others you'll have to: attach the barrels>blast bags>turret face.
Alternatively, you attach the blast bags to the turret face>attach the brass barrels from inside the turret going through the pre-drilled turrets/blast bags.
That's all I've ever had to do.
Here's a picture of a 1/700 brass barrel>resin turret sample.....

1945 Missouri for sure had her SC-1's. She underwent a yard period in Jan, 45. Missouri had a number of other changes as well; not reflected in Tamiya's kit......Just to inform!

Here's Missouri from an interesting viewpoint........

I'll never stray far from the Iowa Fans!
Tony

Starfreak07 · Post by **Starfreak07** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:20 pm

Thanks Tracy and tony for the replies, i go ahead and get the SC-1's, i get the Brass barrels, as from what i have read in reviews the Tamiya barrels are to short, or is that info wrong?

Again thanks for the info..

Simon

Tracy White · Post by **Tracy White** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:29 pm

Tony: Nice shot! Very inspiring.... I may have to move the four planes I'm working on off my workbench

Post by **Timmy C** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:39 pm

The most annoying thing about that shot is that it makes you want to add those eyehooks onto your 1/700 Missouri's hull...

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:41 pm

Hi Guys,
Simon,
An answer to one of your last questions; regarding the kit barrel lengths.
Here ya go!

Looks the same to me.......
Still miss Steve!
Tracy,
I can't take credit for the picture, just finding it, keeping it, and then sharing it! As if you thought otherwise!

A/C are awesome, but in a 1 on 1 comparison to an Iowa Class???
Come now!
Tony

Starfreak07 · Post by **Starfreak07** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:42 pm

Well after playing with my Tamiya 1/350 New Jersey i won't bother with the Brass barrels as i just drilled out the ends of the kit barrels and it looks good, and even better when painted

Yamato1701 · Post by **Yamato1701** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 10:44 pm

Some of y'all might find that front on view of the Misery err I mean Missouri (my Bad) but I am thinking of the poor sailor or sailors they had to get into that position by either hoisting him down (I sure hope not) or by being in a boat in front of it. Don't get me wrong it deffinitely bring out a sense of awe. Although as a Submariner, i don't ever want o see that view in the persicope. Nice work on the model by the way.

Starfreak07 · Post by **Starfreak07** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 4:44 pm

Sorry another question, who makes the best PE for the missouri? I can get either GMM, Eduard and WEM...

Their all around the same pricebut WEM is the more expensive..

Cheers for any advice..

Simon

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:14 pm

Hi Guys,
Simon,
I would vote for the GMM 3504 WWII Iowa Class set; additionally set 3504-A (Missouri Gold Plus details set).
LOTS of details to add to Tamiya's baby.
Not the only p/e set, but the one I chose.
BTW, L'Arsenal recenty released its' own Iowa Class p/e Catapults and cranes......superb! State of teh art releif etching and resin casting.
Check this out!

I could post pics all night! I have so much Iowa stuff!
Tony

Starfreak07 · Post by **Starfreak07** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 2:16 am

Ok this is probably a stupid question and i probably know the answer already, but i want to make sure anyway. I am gonna make my Missouri a Waterline build. Where abouts should i cut? Once i have cut the bottom off will i need to brace the rest of the haul? Or is the Tamiya Plastic thick enough not to worry?

Cheers

Simon

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:16 am

Hi Simon,
The hull bottom will be flimsy as all get out once you've cut through about one half of it. I chose to cut through at the lower boot topping raised line, as it gave me plenty of room to mess up.
I'll post some more pics of this process later.
Tony

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johndon · Post by **johndon** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:30 am

Starfreak07 wrote:Ok this is probably a stupid question and i probably know the answer already, but i want to make sure anyway. I am gonna make my Missouri a Waterline build. Where abouts should i cut? Once i have cut the bottom off will i need to brace the rest of the haul? Or is the Tamiya Plastic thick enough not to worry?

Cheers

Simon

I cut mine off at the bottom of the boot topping (after I'd glued the deck in place) and I haven't felt the need to brace mine at all.

John

Tony Bunch · Post by **Tony Bunch** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:46 am

Hi Guys,
Simon,
Like John, I too had no trouble with the 1/350 Tamiya hull's rigidity, (after removing the hull bottom), once the three deck sections had been added on and a new, "flat bottom", was attached.
The process I used to cut away the hull botom was simple enough. I used an electric Dremel tool with the flat, "cut-off", disc in place. I cut along the lower, (of two), molded in raised boot topping lines slowly and methodically. My reasoning, (as stated previously), was to allow ample room for unevenness in the cutting process. Turns out that the Dremel was not that hard to use, and the, "waviness", was kept to a + or - of approx. 1/8". I then used the Dremel to do some, "leveling", and then I switched to a coarse hobby file. After much hobby filing, I was almost left with a perfectly, "planed", hull bottom. At this point, I think about .200" of the hull remained below the upper boot topping molded line. Next, I attached the stern deck section permanently, and I glued it from beneath..now that there's plenty of access. The bow and midships deck sections first were attached together, and then attached to the hull/stern deck section. I then attached a .040" bottom comprised of three sheets of Evergreen plain sheet styrene. The hull outlined was trimmed into the sheet styrene after the glue dried, and a final trim and sanding process was done.

Voila! A water line(d) Tamiya 1/350 Missouri! It was at this point that I decided to plan to attach the hull to a piece of tinted blue acrylic sheet, (future water base), with the hulls' outline cut into the 1/8" acrylic sheet.

This way, the hulls' additional remaining depth would settle nicely down into the 1/8" acrylic sheet. Still have not done this, (model is not yet finished), but the hull fits. This model wil be displayed with an additional two substancial vessels: USS Renshaw DD499, and a Hoga YT. This display will be a re-creation of the Missouri's Navy Day participation/celebration on the Hudson River, October 27th, 1945.
The Renshaw DD kit is not as far along as the Missouri, but that could change quickly. I have some pictures of Renshaw on the Calling All Fletcher Fans Thread, but no pics posted very recently.
Hope this helps. I figure if I can do this; you can too.

Tony

Avery Boyer · Post by **Avery Boyer** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:37 am

I ended up getting a good deal on a Trumpy Iowa w/ GMM PE ($20 new and unstarted

). Thanks to those who answered my questions about the kit, now I know what to expect

JPH · Post by **JPH** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:32 am

Some beautiful models in this thread.

Looking at Steve Larsens Missouri on the first page has me a little stumped. The blue hull & deck shades are awesome but what grey is used on the vertical surfaces? To me it looks to light to be Haze grey (Tamiya TS-32 spray paint).

Any help appreciated. If it has already been covered here apologies, but at the moment & don't have time to flick through 32 pages, being that i'm at work & all

Thanks.

Gone Asiatic · Post by **Gone Asiatic** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:59 am

Some cool IOWA class footage:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVyYmQkARl8

Yamato1701 · Post by **Yamato1701** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:31 am

Was looking through Google maps today and 5 Iowa Class battleships. Not 4 like were actually built but 5 full and complete (modernized) Iowa's Good luck to you finding them all.

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