Calling all Yamato (大和) and Musashi (武蔵) fans

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 12:19 pm

Does anyone have good photos of any respectable model of the Yamato showing clearly the region superstructure around the aft director with the 10m range finder?

I want to know how the conical tower supporting the aft 10m director is integrated into the superstructure block in front of it. In Tamiya's depiction this tower effectively stands alone and is separated from the main superstructure, event hough the main superstructure immediately in front of it is almost as tall as the tower, and stands no more than 2 meters away from it. I find it hard to believe two blocks of superstructure could be so close to each other and so similar in height and not connected.

ajkochev · Post by **ajkochev** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:43 pm

I've seen a few models were there was a red box on all the open AA turret platforms on the Yamato's last mission. Is this true and what was the box?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:51 pm

I think you will have a hard time determining if it is true. The best you can do is to determine if the most convincing available model shows it.

gtb -red · Post by **gtb -red** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:10 pm

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have good photos of any respectable model of the Yamato showing clearly the region superstructure around the aft director with the 10m range finder?

I want to know how the conical tower supporting the aft 10m director is integrated into the superstructure block in front of it. In Tamiya's depiction this tower effectively stands alone and is separated from the main superstructure, event hough the main superstructure immediately in front of it is almost as tall as the tower, and stands no more than 2 meters away from it. I find it hard to believe two blocks of superstructure could be so close to each other and so similar in height and not connected.

try this. http://www.geocities.jp/dancyou3/yamato10.html

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:16 pm

It's an amazing model, but it does not show the area immediately ahead of the aft 10m range finder.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:22 am

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have good photos of any respectable model of the Yamato showing clearly the region superstructure around the aft director with the 10m range finder?

I want to know how the conical tower supporting the aft 10m director is integrated into the superstructure block in front of it. In Tamiya's depiction this tower effectively stands alone and is separated from the main superstructure, event hough the main superstructure immediately in front of it is almost as tall as the tower, and stands no more than 2 meters away from it. I find it hard to believe two blocks of superstructure could be so close to each other and so similar in height and not connected.

The top portion only does connect to that main superstructure as you suggest and if you are modeling it you should fill the top block with sytrene and putty then sand smooth. Anything below does not connect to the superstructure untill you reach the base. At least that is what the plans in the Anatomy of a Battleship book show.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 3:24 pm

But in the anatomy of the ship, is does actually show a full deck-height connection between the tower and the main superstructure at level 2 of the superstructure. There also seems to be a bulwark above the connection at level 2 and a fillet between the bulwark and the tower.

I actually located a photo of this section in Warship pictorial No 25, where it forms the background to a group photo of some Japanese staff officers. It appears the connection depicted in AOTS is not accurate. The only connection between the tower at the main superstructure is on superstructure level 1. The big vent blocks on either side of the base of the rear director tower is also appears to be connected to the main superstructure via a low pipeline like structure that is half recessed into superstructure deck level 1. There are also some large NACA style vents on the back of the main superstructure in front of the tower that is absent from both Tamiya model and ATOS.

Also, based on the 1:10 scale Kure model, the two inward facing vents abreast the base of the rear director tower shown in ATOS is not there.

Seabee Mike · Post by **Seabee Mike** » Sat Nov 24, 2007 10:36 am

Over on the other board, I saw a thread discussing a new book co-authored by Janusz Skulski. It covers Yamato, Musashi, and Shinano. From what I read, it appears that this book won't be available in English; however, someone did mention the possibility of another Skulski book in English.

Anyone here have any other info on updates to AOTS?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:27 am

Can you share a link to the other board?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Nov 25, 2007 4:59 am

That thread already rolled off the boards. Apparently he switched pulbishers, but as far as I know no word on other ships except Shinano. Not the most interesting carrier.

Jose Chaica · Post by **Jose Chaica** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:04 am

The actual publisher is here:

http://www.modelhobby.pl/angielska/index_ang.php

Just look in the "forthcoming books" section...

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Jose Chaica · Post by **Jose Chaica** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:37 pm

Is there a possibility (if the author and/or forum administrators agree) of adding "Shinano" to this topic�s name ???
For instance...

Calling all Yamato / Musashi / Shinano fans..."

Thanks...

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Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Nov 26, 2007 4:41 pm

Shinano is a word that Yamato fans prefer to never hear.

There is something deflating to fans of battleships to hear that a sister of the mightiest battleship class ever to sail the sea had to scramble to justify her own existence by allowing herself to be razed to the weather deck and converted into an ineffectual carrier.

Jose Chaica · Post by **Jose Chaica** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:37 am

Anonymous wrote:Shinano is a word that Yamato fans prefer to never hear.

There is something deflating to fans of battleships to hear that a sister of the mightiest battleship class ever to sail the sea had to scramble to justify her own existence by allowing herself to be razed to the weather deck and converted into an ineffectual carrier.

Well...if you put it that way.....
They shared the same origin, and the same fate, didn�t they...???

I would like to see these 3 grouped together, because they have some things in common....right ???

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Yamato1701 · Post by **Yamato1701** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:22 am

My Musashi so far. Been delayed building her due to PS2 Warship Gunner 2 Naval Battle game, Construction has resumed thoough. PE is kicking my butt.

Yamato1701 · Post by **Yamato1701** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:24 pm

Anonymous wrote:Details, details.

Mushashi capsized also before sinking.

Did they ever dive on her? I wonder if she is as torn up as Yamato is

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:10 pm

No, Her wreck has not been found AFAIK. But survivors attest to the fact that there were several large underwater explosions shortly after Musashi slipped under. So it seems likely that her wreck would be mangled as well.

Irish Yamato · Post by **Irish Yamato** » Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:24 pm

Can anyone tell em anything about these models.

I believe that they were by a Russian Company but I have otherwise lost details about them.

http://i3.tinypic.com/89i15d4.jpg
http://i17.tinypic.com/8by0kt4.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/6o0ah77.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/8bem3wn.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/6o4nvvm.jpg
http://i11.tinypic.com/8341t2b.jpg

Regards
John John

Due to the size of some of the images, moderator has converted them to links.

skuki · Post by **skuki** » Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:42 am

Hi,

please tell me which would be the best 1/700 Yamato? Tnx

J. Soca · Post by **J. Soca** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:05 pm

I was going over a couple of pictures on the Maru Special book of the Chokai and Maya I bought. It has some cool pictures of both vessels, nevertheless I was kind of disappointed when I got it though. The reason I bought it was because of Maya, the book only has 4 pictures of ship in 1944. I can�t do much with these, I do like one shot that shows Maya�s superstructure. You can see clearly the front of the bridge structure. Anyways, I wanted to show this pic which I found interesting, picture is dated 1941 and it was taken at Kure. That ship in the background of Chokai is either Yamato or Musashi.

[img]http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd101/Kroyt/chokai2-1.jpg[/img]

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