Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

[FW_Allen]

It looks like a decent photoetch set. It does have some unique parts as well (not many, but interesting ones nonetheless...I especially like the two piece funnel cage tops).

Despite this, I am a bit disappointed to see that they ended up making some of the same mistakes as the previous sets. Most notable of these are both starfish platforms (wrong shapes) and the central portion of the degaussing cable/coil (it was a single cable amidships). I am disappointed because they have had the benefit of time...they waited so long to develop their set that many problems with the Trumpeter model and earlier photoetch releases have come to light. Also, several small discoveries have been made pertaining to Hood herself. Had Eduard really done their research, they'd have seen all this and not replicated the mistakes. Of course, none of the other companies have corrected their mistakes either.

Frank

[Tracy White]

Much as I would like to see a corrected set, I suspect it would be a bad business decision as you would leave shops & distributors out there with product people wouldn't want. Doesn't take one or two of those before people stop buying from you......

Now, a separate correction SET might fly....

[FW_Allen]

. . .Now, a separate correction SET might fly....

That is EXACTLY what I've been hoping for Tracy. If someone would develop a small update set consisting of the correct starfish, correct degaussing cable and correct Type 284 radar (only one of the current photoetch sets has this right), it would be great. Of course, this still may not be financially viable.

Frank

[FW_Allen]

Hello Everyone- I accidentally posted this as its own thread. I have moved it here as this is the most appropriate location for this topic:

Can anyone guess what I am looking at right now?

If you guessed test/prototype kits of the Trumpeter 1/700 scale 1931 and 1931 Hoods, you're correct! Trumpeter have asked us to look over both kits and point out any major errors (as the kits are in a well advanced state, its too late to fix minor errors...only seriously major problems or omissions will be feasible to address) . So, that is what we shall do.

So, relax Hood fans! They are indeed real, and if all goes well, they will be hitting the shelves within a few months. Well, unless we find any major errors that is.!

Sorry, I can't post any photos...can't give out any kit details yet either (at least not until Trumpeter says it is okay). So, stay tuned!

Frank

[moritzk]

Hello together,

I wanted to ask u if u can give some advices for plans or Literature to build the HMS Hood during 1936 - 38???

My project is to rebuild the 1941 Trumpeter Hood to a 1936-38! (Of course, during this time, there were some "refits" at malta).

Currently, I read following books: Roberts, John:The Battlecruiser Hood. And:Taylor, Bruce: The Battlecruiser HMS Hood. These two books got some interessting images. But what I need would be a good plan for the special changes! {I must not be a plan from 36-38}


For your help, I would be very grateful.

Best regards!!!

[Dino Carancini]

Hi Moritzk,
HMS Hood changed her apparence from '36 to '38, you should select wich hear you are looking for.

I think that "Anatomy of the ship Battelcruiser Hood" is a good book to understand how she was during that time frame, anyway it isn't enought, you must integrate it with all the info and photographic material that you can find here http://www.hmshood.com

In 37/38 there has been a lot of As & As, expecially concerning the AA guns, but all the ship had a serie of modifications, the main superstructure changed and the shelter deck too.

Good luck!

Dino

[Starfreak07]

Ok i know this has more than likely been asked in the 15 pages but to be perfectly honest i am to lazy to read through the lot so i figured i just ask..

I am gonna be getting the Trumpeter 1/350 HMS Hood with there update set they do. Is there anything else i should get? E.G PE etc etc?? I want to build her as she was in the Med 40-41, so what paints will i need? I be getting WEM paints for this build..

Cheers

Simon

[FW_Allen]

Ok i know this has more than likely been asked in the 15 pages but to be perfectly honest i am to lazy to read through the lot so i figured i just ask..

I am gonna be getting the Trumpeter 1/350 HMS Hood with there update set they do. Is there anything else i should get? E.G PE etc etc?? I want to build her as she was in the Med 40-41, so what paints will i need? I be getting WEM paints for this build..

Cheers

Simon

There are a few things you'll need to modify, to include but not limited to:

• * Darker paint job
  * Creating the rangefinder above the Spotting Top (Hood didn't have her gunnery radar yet),
  * Adding the upper portion of the foremast
  * Adding the small hut atop the mainmast starfish platform
  * Different ship's boats (and locations for some of the boats)
  * Of course, there is a bit more that needs to be done, which I won't mention here, but I think we should give you a chance to look that up yourself .

You can learn more about the exact differences by checking out forums such as this, plus resources like "The Battlecruiser Hood" by John Roberts, "The Battlecruiser H.M.S. Hood: An Illustrated Biography" by Bruce Taylor, the Classic Warships book on Hood and of course the Hood Association's website at http://hmshood.com. Don't bother with any of the Polilsh mongraphs on Hood as they are not much help for this timeframe...and some frankly have wrong information when it comes to the shapes of various structures.

Anyways, if you look, you should find plenty of information and/or photos to help guide you.

[MartinJQuinn]

In case you missed it, member M�LDERS from Germany is building a 1/350 Trumpy Hood. You can see more here:

http://www.shipmodels.info/mwphpBB2/vie ... hp?t=32013

BTW, I did some clean up on this thread. Removed some "atta boy" posts and some announcements of now released kits. I also converted many of the picture to links, to save room.

[RNfanDan]

... (as the kits are in a well advanced state, its too late to fix minor errors...only seriously major problems or omissions will be feasible to address).

This post isn't the first I've seen to state the above pretext. To me, this line of thinking on the part of manufacturers is baffling.

In effect, what they are saying is "If we need to go back to step one and redesign a new hull now that the ship is nearing completion, we can handle that. But if it's a matter of a missing watertight hatch, that's much too difficult a task to handle!"

Where am I going wrong?

[Timmy C]

I have no idea of their manufacturing processes, but it could be that editing a mold will require major "surgery", perhaps even discarding the old one for a new one - thus, they may not think that it's worth the cost to fix minor errors, whilst large ones are considered worthy of the extra cost.

[Anonymous]

... (as the kits are in a well advanced state, its too late to fix minor errors...only seriously major problems or omissions will be feasible to address).

This post isn't the first I've seen to state the above pretext. To me, this line of thinking on the part of manufacturers is baffling.

In effect, what they are saying is "If we need to go back to step one and redesign a new hull now that the ship is nearing completion, we can handle that. But if it's a matter of a missing watertight hatch, that's much too difficult a task to handle!"

Where am I going wrong?

I can sort of understand that view. To me a little error with detail about a watertight door does not subtract substantially from a model. A hull with significant error in shape would considerably diminish the model in my eyes.

[Dave Martin]

Hi,
I have a query, which should really be directed at WEM, but here goes.

WEM UP launchers - "Professional 350"

Part no PRO 350 01.

Are these compatible with those fitted to Hood? I bought them to fit to my Trumpeter 1/350 Hood kit.

The pack says that they are fine to use if you wish to backdate Tamiya's Prince Of Wales, but can I use them with Hood too?

Thanks

Dave

[Jeffcsr]

I have the Testor's/Italeri 1/720 Hood, after trying to research what the differences of the Trumpy 1941 and 1931 versions I find references that the Testors/Italeri is replica of the 1938 version... Is this the same as the 1941?

What are the major physical differences between the '31 & '41? As far as the Trumpeter(1/700) models go ?

[Dave Martin]

Hi,

I hope you find this one useful -
http://hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/italeri/italeri.htm

Dave

[Guest]

As I remember the Hood was one of 4 Admiral class battlecruisers they originally were to be called
Admiral Hood
Admiral Anson
Admiral Howe
Admiral Rodney
Incidentally i also prefer the 1923 version.

[regemet]

As I remember the Hood was one of 4 Admiral class battlecruisers they originally were to be called
Admiral Hood
Admiral Anson
Admiral Howe
Admiral Rodney
Incidentally i also prefer the 1923 version.

I actually sent this post but forgot to log in before I sent it

[MartinJQuinn]

Hi,
I have a query, which should really be directed at WEM, but here goes.

WEM UP launchers - "Professional 350"

Part no PRO 350 01.

Are these compatible with those fitted to Hood? I bought them to fit to my Trumpeter 1/350 Hood kit.

The pack says that they are fine to use if you wish to backdate Tamiya's Prince Of Wales, but can I use them with Hood too?

Thanks

Dave

Never saw this post...

Yes, I would think they could be used on the Hood. I think they only reference PoW, because there was no injection molded Hood at the time.

[FW_Allen]

Jeffcsr,

The Italeri Hood is actually a 1933 Hood. As for the differences between the 1931 and 1941 Hoods, there are too many to list out here specifically. Here's a real quick/basic list of the big changes- the aircraft gear was not present afte 1932 or so, the rear superstructure was enclosed, a pom pom bandstand added, boats changed, the shelter deck extended, splintershields added, numerous gun additions/changes, searchlights and directors moved all about, changes to the structures immediately behind and between the funnels, bridge deck modifications. Then there was the addition of radar, plating over of some of the enclosed shelter deck gun positions, etc.

To learn more, you might want to try the Anatomy of the Ship book by John Roberts. Some of the 1941 drawings are now a bit out of date thanks to recent photo discoveries, but overall, its still quite excellent. Definitely helpful for seeing what changed between 1931 and 1941.

It would actually be quite interesting to combine a 1931 Trumpeter Hood and a 1941 Turmpeter Hood. One could possibly come up (with minimal detailing work) a decent mid-late 1930s Hood...Hood at her best looking.

Frank
http://hmshood.com

[Jeffcsr]

Got it! 1933 for the Italeri. Assembly is going slow, I'm working on dryfitting the weatherdeck to the hull, mine is pretty mis-matched size wise. I'm following HMSHOOD.com's guide to building the Italeri Hood. Pretty helpful!