Paasche VLS Iwata HP-BSC

Cvrle · Post by **Cvrle** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:20 am

I'm in the market for a new airbrush, and these two are the forerunners.
Anyone out there have experience using them?
Can I put a color cup on the Iwata (I don't like color bottles)?

Cheers,
Tvrtko

richter111 · Post by **richter111** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 9:36 am

I have the passche VSR 90 and I love it. It sprays well and is a joy to use. Clean up is fairly easy, and it comes with all the tools needed for tear down and repair. I had a Aztec airbrush by testors and after I replaced it twice I threw it in the junk yard. The trigger was a peice of crapola. One note about the VSR 90's fine needle, be very very careful with it. A strong breeze will bend it!

Hope this helps some

Ric

les · Post by **les** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 1:41 pm

Most of the guys that I talk to that have an Iwata think the sun sets and rises on it.

KV_Pharaoh · Post by **KV_Pharaoh** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:19 pm

I have the Iwata HP-BCS and Les pretty much summed it up in my opinion. In reference to your question, you can't use a cup with a BCS however, there is another model of the Eclipse...
The Iwata Eclipse CS is a 1/3 oz gravity fed brush.

http://www.currys.com/airbrush/prodinfo ... SubcatID=3

There is a link to it, they also have a variety of other brushes from Iwata and Paasche as well at pretty competitive prices...they are listed in CDN I believe.

I have had my BCS for about 4 months now, and it is a very versatile and capable brush. You can spray a very fine dull pencil thick line or a 2.5 inch swath with all the control in the world, without changing needles or tips or anything. The dual action mechanism is a very simple one to disassemble and cleaning is usually not the daunting task that you hear associated with most airbrushes.

While I can not speak for the Paasche side of the house, having done nothing more than hold one in my hand. I can say that it is highly unlikely you will be displeased with an Iwata. I hope that helps and if you need any more information on the Iwata BCS I'm more than willing, but I think you'll be better served with the CS if you are more interested in the cup fed brushes.

Regards,
Paul Morrison

Cvrle · Post by **Cvrle** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:32 pm

Thank you for the replies!
Unfortunately, the CS is out of my price range...
However, I also posted the question on Armorama, and people told me I can use a Badger color cup

Cheers,
Tvrtko

patiens · Post by **patiens** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:11 pm

The Paasche VLS is a joy. But remember, you have to clean it every time you use it. But it doesn't bother me when I remember the -- er, forget the brand name -- cheaper ones I owned. One blew up on me and put a large coat of Haze Grey on a particularly loved pair of jeans.

les · Post by **les** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:15 pm

No matter what kind you use, it's always better to clean it after every use. Personally, I use a single action Badger. Works fine for me.

Cvrle · Post by **Cvrle** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:14 pm

patiens wrote:The Paasche VLS is a joy. But remember, you have to clean it every time you use it. But it doesn't bother me when I remember the -- er, forget the brand name -- cheaper ones I owned. One blew up on me and put a large coat of Haze Grey on a particularly loved pair of jeans.

How it's for cleaning? I've heard conflicting reports from awful to easy...
Thatnks for the advice!

cheers,
Tvrtko

patiens · Post by **patiens** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:32 am

Sigh!
It's a *^%@$ to clean. I keep the user's manual at my side at all times so I can take it apart and put it together right. I also use some orthodontist's brace-cleaning devices (pipe cleaners don't work too well). And I curse a lot.
A whole lot.

Cvrle · Post by **Cvrle** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:41 am

Auch!
This throws me into a dillema- I'd rather give a little more money and get a brush tat's easier to maintain...
It has been suggested that I look into the badger 155?
Any experience with that one?

Cheers,
Tvrtko

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:55 pm

I have a VLS, A BADGER 200 bottem feed, and an Iwata HP-C. The VLS gets used as an air chuck to blow off items before painting-it's not easy to clean. I use the HP-C from Iwata for general spraying. The reason being is that I can clean Gunze or Tamiya acrylics out of it in about 2 minutes with alcohol. When I pull the needle out once a week to check for paint build up-there is nothing there. Enamal is a diferent story, it will build up and takes a little more care in cleaning. It is a gravity feed double action. I use my 13 year old badger 200 bottom feed for detail work. Put a fine tip and needle in it, get the air preasure and paint thinning working together and you can paint the most complicated Luftwaffe cammo schemes free-hand. It is cheap also!

The main thing to do is get something and USE IT! I know guys that do amazing work with a Pasche H. They will use nothing else!

John Snyder · Post by **John Snyder** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:59 am

I've been using a Paasche H single-action airbrush since about 1965 (they are pretty bulletproof). I've recently bought a new Iwata, but haven't yet used it as the old H Model just keeps meeting my needs.

You won't go wrong with either brand. As someone said, get to know the tool and you'll be happy, whichever one you buy.

Devin · Post by **Devin** » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:16 am

I swear by the Badger Sotar 20/20. Easy to use, and amazingly quick and easy to clean. The only problem I can see some having is that it only comes in color cup configuration (no bottle attachments) but I love the thing.

-Devin

Alpha19 · Post by **Alpha19** » Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:36 pm

cresendo 175(m) works well for me. I've used it to paint several r/c car bodies and a heli canopy. I would like add another to my inventory for detail work. Sometimes dealing with bottles is a pain in the but big time.

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