1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build

[russclark]

well here we go.this is the third 1/192 scratch built ship i have built k.g.v,massachusetts,and now the jean bart. the jean bart is my first on line build.there seems to be little info on her. hope you guys can help me out on things as i move along.downloaded some good plans from french site in1/100 had to rescale to 1/192 took about 20 sheets of paper http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... 485tb6.jpg .the plans are ok but there is no fore or aft drawings.heres a few pics of the start of build
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[Dave Wooley]

Hi Russ Good to see you posting your Jean Bart project in Scratch Build. There is a particularly good article on the Jean Bart with a number of excellent pictures in "Warship 1989" pages 156-165 published by Conway Maritime press. As a matter of interest there is a series of full page detailed on board shots of Richelieu in the publication "Warships and Warship Modelling " Naval Institute Press Hope this helps
Dave Wooley

[Fredrik]

Hello!

Anyone interested in French warships should notice the Friends Union of
the Muse� De Marine De Paris, (Amis = Friends). They have a range of
modern (and elderly) warship plan sets. Among them the Riecheliu and
Jean Bart. Have a look at their homepage.

http://www.amis-musee-marine.net/boutique/

All the best

Fredrik

[russclark]

thanks guys for the info,my main problem is info on 100mm and 57mm guns as well as the forward superstructure as of 1950 or later,could have done richelieu which has more info and stuff but i like looks of j.b better

[Dave Wooley]

thanks guys for the info,my main problem is info on 100mm and 57mm guns as well as the forward superstructure as of 1950 or later,could have done richelieu which has more info and stuff but i like looks of j.b better

Hi Russ Well that's as good a reason as any. Look forward to more of your build pictures .
Dave Wooley

[russclark]

worked on prop shafts primed hull,and starting to make 15"turret master.also started #3 deck,had a heck of a time trueing up hull because i did not use anough hull frames, used 23 should have added more.because of hull blisters and other compound curves sheating bowed a bit ,needed lots of filling.live and learn . heres soom pics.all comments good or bad welcome,will try to answer all questions.

[Jefgte]

Superb hull & very nice paint Russ !!!




Jef

[russclark]

Superb hull & very nice paint Russ !!!




Jef

thanks, the paint is just primer so far .more sanding and a couple of more coats before main paint

[Avery Boyer]

Excellent work so far, can't wait to see more. I really like the pic with Mass. and the JB plans, shows a wonderful comparison between the two!

[russclark]

hi guys,a couple of pics of gun and director moulds and moulding stuff.air bubbles in resin will work there way out.moulding material takes about an hour to start setting up. the casting stuff takes about 5 min it also creates a little heat.the synlube release agent is1000 with silicone,tryed 531 without silicone but it made some things tacky

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Russ I've not ventured into the art of moulding resin fittings as yet . I've seen the results achieved by ARH and they are superb. So I awaite with interest your results . At this present time I have few problems making multiple fittings with out moulding. However the prospect of making an entire air group fills me with dred , hence my interest in your progress on moulding.
Dave Wooley

[russclark]

Hi Russ I've not ventured into the art of moulding resin fittings as yet . I've seen the results achieved by ARH and they are superb. So I awaite with interest your results . At this present time I have few problems making multiple fittings with out moulding. However the prospect of making an entire air group fills me with dred , hence my interest in your progress on moulding.
Dave Wooley

hi dave going to pop them out of moulds today,hope they come out ok.keeping things fairly simple because i am not that confident yet,will post a few pics of masters and molds

[russclark]

well here thay are turned out not to bad,zoomed in realy close and thay look a little iffy. but really thay won't clean up to bad. a lot easyer than building 12 100mm'S AND 14 57MM's .rough edges have to be sanded down,top of the pour.

[Sean Hert]

Looks like the isocyanate side of your resin is pretty contaminated- all those brown floaty things in your resin.

Oh, I've done the same, trying to eek out a few last pours from dodgy resin myself....

[Dave Wooley]

Looks like the isocyanate side of your resin is pretty contaminated- all those brown floaty things in your resin.

Oh, I've done the same, trying to eek out a few last pours from dodgy resin myself....

Could you explain this in more detail . As they say we live and learn.
Dave Wooley

[russclark]

hi sean ,dave the brown stuff is primer that pulled off the master.will not paint masters again.thay are wood sheated . some where sheated with styrene,sheated ones came out better.i am now going to clean up resin castings and pour again to see if it comes out better.

[russclark]

hi sean ,dave the brown stuff is primer that pulled off the master.will not paint masters again.thay are wood sheated . some where sheated with styrene,sheated ones came out better.i am now going to clean up resin castings and pour again to see if it comes out better.
#%*^don' t know how double post happend sorry
heres the new batch of castings much better a little clean up and detailing,good to go.
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[russclark]

hi sean ,dave the brown stuff is primer that pulled off the master.will not paint masters again.thay are wood sheated . some where sheated with styrene,sheated ones came out better.i am now going to clean up resin castings and pour again to see if it comes out better.
#%*^don' t know how double post happend sorry
heres the new batch of castings much better a little clean up and detailing,good to go.
[img=http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/7190/im000509gb8.th.jpg]

[Dave Wooley]

Hi Russ How do you eliminate , as much as possible the air bubbles in the resin? Thanks for posting the pictures , every bit helps.
Dave Wooley

[russclark]

Hi Russ How do you eliminate , as much as possible the air bubbles in the resin? Thanks for posting the pictures , every bit helps.
Dave Wooley

hi dave,the casting resin i,m using is supper thin,you can stir the heck out of it and no bubbles,it also sets up in less than 5 min.
the moulding stuff is a differant story,know matter how slow or carefull you are you get bubbles, make sure master is sealed good to bottum of mould frame or air will sneak out from under master.after pour i put it on my jig saw and run it slow so it vibrates gets rid of most bubbles
heres soom small stuff,deck whinchs are about 3/8 " long