1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Moderators: MartinJQuinn, JIM BAUMANN, HMAS, Tiny69, Dave Wooley
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
thanks for the input guys,maybe i worded it wrong but my problem is between the same manufactures spray can and there brushable paint. like when the decks are painted and you have to touch up here and there.
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
i cast some small deck boats today,i am sure there are better ways to do it ,but heres my attempt. i first poured one solid hull and then poured another one and set the first one into it to make a hollow shell. the casting does not take long as the stuff i use sets up in 5 mins .also cast some anchors used some wax,then used a metal anchor and pressed one half tured it over and did the other side. heres a few pics


- Dave Wooley
- Posts: 4131
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:18 am
- Location: Liverpool
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Hi Russ Nice work. Question was the crane also cast?
Dave Wooley
Dave Wooley
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
hi dave . no the cranes are built out of styrene,my casts come out of the molds easy,but my masters do not release from the molds worth a dam,i tried differant release agents and for some reason non silicone works better for molds and stuff with silicone works great for casting.i found the silicone makes styrene coverd masters sticky.i sure wish there was a molding compound that you could mix without worrying about air bubbles.
-
fooman2008
- Posts: 32
- Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:20 pm
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
JB was converted to U.S. anti-aircraft fittings in WWII wasn't she? Did the French convert her back after or was the ammo NATO standard by then?
Or am I thinking of Richelieu?
Or am I thinking of Richelieu?
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
jean bart never had u.s a.a.guns.it took intill 1949 to 1955 to completly get all her 57 mm and 100 m.ms.makes picking a year to build very confusing
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
hi guys,i came across some neat little things for making hose or cable reels. we have a dollar store in campbell river,i was looking around for stuff for scratch building and came across these.
there is 4 differant sizes on each card 3m.m to 8 m.m. one side has a bigger flange than the other,perfect for a brake flange or if you want both sides to be the same use the same side of 2 snaps. to make the reel all i did was use tubing,wire,flat brass and a snap. the snaps already have a hole trough them and a tit sticking out to snap them together,drill tubing out to the tit size,cut to length and glue together.i think this makes a nice reel me thinks.

there is 4 differant sizes on each card 3m.m to 8 m.m. one side has a bigger flange than the other,perfect for a brake flange or if you want both sides to be the same use the same side of 2 snaps. to make the reel all i did was use tubing,wire,flat brass and a snap. the snaps already have a hole trough them and a tit sticking out to snap them together,drill tubing out to the tit size,cut to length and glue together.i think this makes a nice reel me thinks.

- Dave Wooley
- Posts: 4131
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:18 am
- Location: Liverpool
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Improvisation It;s all part of model making . great idea you have there.
Dave Wooley
Dave Wooley
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
jean bart is finished,heres a few pics more on picture post. i submitted a bunch on the gallery also.


- Dave Wooley
- Posts: 4131
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:18 am
- Location: Liverpool
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Hi Russ Your Jean Bart looks superb . Any thoughts on a follow up project and will you be placing the model in a display case?
Dave Wooley
Dave Wooley
-
fooman2008
- Posts: 32
- Joined: Tue Nov 04, 2008 7:20 pm
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
French always did build them pretty now if their politicians would just let their navy do something with them.....
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
thanks for the kind words dave,yes i am going to have a display case,it will be plaxi glass the bottom will be a wood board with runners around for the plexi to slip into, built one for my massachusetts ,it was fairly reasanable in cost.what will be next, i have kgv,massasachusetts,j.b .been thinking of vittorio veneto class in 1/200 or 1/192. i am going to step up my qaulity control on next ship ,better cutters,calipers,ect. also a t- square and drafting stuff, have to make my fit better so i do not have so much filling and sanding.
- GTDEATH13
- Posts: 1205
- Joined: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:15 am
- Location: ATHENS, GREECE
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Great stuff...
How much did the model cost you (if it is easy to estimate)
Love the paintjob, what colours did you use?
Vittorio Veneto?? Oh boy.. superb..
Love the paintjob, what colours did you use?
Vittorio Veneto?? Oh boy.. superb..
NIKOS (NICK)
???? ?? ??? ???????? ??????
(GREAT IS THE NATION THAT MASTERS THE SEAS)
???? ?? ??? ???????? ??????
(GREAT IS THE NATION THAT MASTERS THE SEAS)
- Dave Wooley
- Posts: 4131
- Joined: Sat Jan 22, 2005 10:18 am
- Location: Liverpool
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
Looking to improving on the previous build is always a good move . I try but don't always succeed but I do have fun trying. When you say "drafting stuff" do you undertake your own drawings , of fittings etc? I certainly like the idea of a 1:200 Vittorio Veneto , I wish you well with this new project.russclark wrote:thanks for the kind words dave,yes i am going to have a display case,it will be plaxi glass the bottom will be a wood board with runners around for the plexi to slip into, built one for my massachusetts ,it was fairly reasanable in cost.what will be next, i have kgv,massasachusetts,j.b .been thinking of vittorio veneto class in 1/200 or 1/192. i am going to step up my qaulity control on next ship ,better cutters,calipers,ect. also a t- square and drafting stuff, have to make my fit better so i do not have so much filling and sanding.
Dave Wooley
- Laurent
- Posts: 481
- Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:13 am
- Location: Li�ge , Belgium
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
this is a good looking model , indeed !
Regards ,
Laurent
Regards ,
Laurent
Scared of Nothing , Always Thirsty
Just call me the "Cereals Box Killer" , I guess
Just call me the "Cereals Box Killer" , I guess
- russclark
- Posts: 1173
- Joined: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:12 pm
- Location: campbell river.b.c canada
Re: 1/192 MN Jean Bart scratch build
hi guys some 35 years ago i built bismark and graf spee in 1/200 had no plans so i bought 1/600 scale models and redrawed all parts to 1/200 in 3 elevations without a t-square or angles. thanks to the internet plans are now availeble ,and there are retailers selling them, some plans are only 2 elevations its hard to envison what the other side looks like,pics help but i think doing all 3 elevations on paper gives a better outlook on things, could do it on the computer but most cad programs are beyond me. i liked the dark hull and light upper,she was this color just before she got her 100,57 m.m,s, so the color is not right but i like it. hull is gray violet,decks are dark gray and the upper is light ghost gray,bottom is guards red , it is to red. as far as cost i had it all on my computer but before i saved it it got a bug
lost all kinds of stuff, a rough guess for supplies , and this is a guess around $500.00 plus many hours, on my next build i will keep a running total.thanks for all your intrest , the input and help is great. 