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PostPosted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:58 am 
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Thank you, thank you very much :thumbs_up_1: Not too bad a price so, I will get me a set of them

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 7:52 pm 
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Elvis965 wrote:
Hey Eddie,

You can get a pre-cut mask from Gator's Masks. They aren't too expensive:

http://gatorsmask.com/cv.html

Bob


I just ordered a set :woo_hoo: So, now I have pulled the Hornet down from the stash pile so I can go over the instructions.
Ok, what color do I paint the hangar deck floor? iirc the bulkheads/walls were white?
I'm debating on wheher or not to do a full hull or waterline yet, I want to try my hand at using the water effects plate too.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:23 pm 
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OK, here are some pics of my 1/700 Trumpy :big_grin:
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I am adding some bits & pieces to the hangar deck as I plan to leave the doors
open. I am wondering "if" any of her air wing was hung in the overhead? If so, how would one display it? Are there any photos showing this?
Any comments, advice, etc is welcomed

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:58 am 
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Elvis965 wrote:
Hey Eddie,

You can get a pre-cut mask from Gator's Masks. They aren't too expensive:

http://gatorsmask.com/cv.html

Bob


However, I believe Gator based his masks on the kit instructions. IIRC, those are incorrect.

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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Elvis965 wrote:
Hey Eddie,

You can get a pre-cut mask from Gator's Masks. They aren't too expensive:

http://gatorsmask.com/cv.html

Bob


However, I believe Gator based his masks on the kit instructions. IIRC, those are incorrect.


Hmmm, this is new to me. The kit instructions are incorrect?? How so?

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Hippy Ed wrote:
Hmmm, this is new to me. The kit instructions are incorrect?? How so?


Here you go. Note the differences in the "wave" pattern on the side of the hull:
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I've got another full shot of the Hornet's starboard side, but I'm not allowed to share it. If you compare the Trumpeter instructions to the rendering Paul Bender did in the Floating Drydocks Warship Damage Vol 1 on Hornet, you can see the differences.

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Ok, Thank you for that info Martin. I plled out my Trumpy's painting guide & seems there's a difference to the ones you have posted here. I'm doing the 1/700 kit and according to mine (I'll try to scan & post them) I see a difference in the paint #s for the B-25s as well

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Martin, I found a review of this kit here on the main review page with a image of the painting/Marking guide
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/hornet-art-01.jpg
This review was done by Timothy Dike
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/trumpeter-review.html

So, what you think?

Eddie

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Hippy Ed wrote:
Ok, Thank you for that info Martin. I pulled out my Trumpy's painting guide & seems there's a difference to the ones you have posted here. I'm doing the 1/700 kit and according to mine (I'll try to scan & post them) I see a difference in the paint #s for the B-25s as well


The fact that you are using the 1/700 kit is a good point, Ed. These are from the 1/350 kit, so they have have corrected the painting instructions by the time they released the 700th scale kit.

However, I don't know if Gator simply scaled down the 1/350 masks to fit 1/700...

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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Hippy Ed wrote:
Ok, Thank you for that info Martin. I pulled out my Trumpy's painting guide & seems there's a difference to the ones you have posted here. I'm doing the 1/700 kit and according to mine (I'll try to scan & post them) I see a difference in the paint #s for the B-25s as well


The fact that you are using the 1/700 kit is a good point, Ed. These are from the 1/350 kit, so they have have corrected the painting instructions by the time they released the 700th scale kit.

However, I don't know if Gator simply scaled down the 1/350 masks to fit 1/700...


Ok, Thanks Martin. I'm still digging around as you do have a good point tho & I do try to be fairly accurate in my interpretation of paint schemes.

Eddie

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Hippy Ed wrote:
Martin, I found a review of this kit here on the main review page with a image of the painting/Marking guide
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/hornet-art-01.jpg
This review was done by Timothy Dike
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/trumpeter-review.html

So, what you think?

Eddie


At a glance, the island looks even more incorrect than the 350th version!

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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Hippy Ed wrote:
Martin, I found a review of this kit here on the main review page with a image of the painting/Marking guide
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/hornet-art-01.jpg
This review was done by Timothy Dike
http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/ships/cv/cv-08/700-trum/trumpeter-review.html

So, what you think?

Eddie


At a glance, the island looks even more incorrect than the 350th version!



:doh_1: Ok, I'll take that under advisement Martin. I''m new to ships so, I have very little clue about them especially WWII subjects

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2008 10:46 am 
Hey Martin,

With your help, I've corrected my masks. Looking good Eddie


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Kenny Loup wrote:
Hey Martin,

With your help, I've corrected my masks. Looking good Eddie


:big_eyes: :thanks: Kenny I'll be lookin' foreward to them.
Martin, Thanks for the heads up on them.

Eddie

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Kenny Loup wrote:
Hey Martin,

With your help, I've corrected my masks. Looking good Eddie



Thanks Kenny! They Do look Great!! :thumbs_up_1: Arrrived today :woo_hoo: :woo_hoo:

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Kenny Loup wrote:
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With your help, I've corrected my masks. Looking good Eddie


Cool. Glad to be of help.

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MartinJQuinn wrote:
Kenny Loup wrote:
Hey Martin,

With your help, I've corrected my masks. Looking good Eddie


Cool. Glad to be of help.


MArtin, Thanks to you for pointing out the problem to me at least now th masks are updated. Thanks to you :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:54 am 
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Hi. Better ask the questions in the correct threads :wave_1:

Did Hornet have any planes down below during the Mitchell transport/launch and if so how many? How many of the various types? Wich types? Devastator, Wildcats and Dauntless's? Any others? I don't think 90 planes will fit inside or do they? Or how many did the "original" Hornet normally carry? Yes i'm planning on having all doors open.

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Tuve Boëthius, Sweden

The WARSHIP PICTORIAL book #9 (Yorktown Class Carriers) claims that Air Group 8 was on board during the raid (18-F4F,32-SBD AND 15-TBN) but there must be a typo because it gives the total as 81 aircraft plus the 16 B-25's. The OSPREY "CAMPAIGN" book #156 claims Air Group 8 had 30-F4F,24-SBD AND 10-TBN plus 5 reserve aircraft plus the 16-B-25's at the time. The question is; Where do we go to get the final answer?

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TuveB wrote:
Hi. Better ask the questions in the correct threads :wave_1:

Did Hornet have any planes down below during the Mitchell transport/launch and if so how many? How many of the various types? Wich types? Devastator, Wildcats and Dauntless's? Any others? I don't think 90 planes will fit inside or do they? Or how many did the "original" Hornet normally carry? Yes i'm planning on having all doors open.

Regards,

Tuve Boëthius, Sweden

The WARSHIP PICTORIAL book #9 (Yorktown Class Carriers) claims that Air Group 8 was on board during the raid (18-F4F,32-SBD AND 15-TBN) but there must be a typo because it gives the total as 81 aircraft plus the 16 B-25's. The OSPREY "CAMPAIGN" book #156 claims Air Group 8 had 30-F4F,24-SBD AND 10-TBN plus 5 reserve aircraft plus the 16-B-25's at the time. The question is; Where do we go to get the final answer?

Regards, Jake Hernandez, USA


That is an interesting question... I have heard some planes were stored in the overhead of the hangar bay

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I´m about to sink my teeth into Trumpeters 1/350 kit. What update sets do you think is necessary, and what can I leave out? I´m planning on using the WEM sets, and possible the Nautilus wooden deck, but I´m a bit sceptical to that one. Not wanting to offend anyone, but is it really a big improvment? I´ve been thinking about correcting the hull shape, but have decided against it. Havn´t got the skills to pull it of. Have also been thinking of using the inaccurate Gator-masks, since I think good looking, inaccurate camo looks better than accurate, messy camo....;)
Replacement guns? More etch? Other parts? Any advice is appreachiated.

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