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E.J! :wave_1:
I have got lots of photos building the parts of my Hood.If you send me your e-mail address and write me wich phase are you interested in, I will send a photos of those phases.However I didn't have my camera always ad hand...
Please write soon: Imre

My address: phely64@t-online.hu
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Hello Imre,

We did receive your photos. I sent you a reply, but perhaps it didn't reach you.

The model is extremely good! We are indeed going to post 4 or 5 photos of it in the Hood models gallery. We'd like to post more, but we have limited space. Of course, I know the good folks here will post many more photos of the model.

The photos will be posted on the Hood site when we update it in early January 2009.

All the best,

Frank
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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Could the specialists give me their advice of this part of my Hood profile...
I think that some details are wrong due to differences between sources but i've done my best

Hood begin evolution

Sincerely

Best wishes for 2009 :thumbs_up_1:
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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There're a few minor issues. :thumbs_up_1:

The degaussing cable has a double run around both the bow and the stern: http://blog.ontheslipway.com/wp-content ... uss_10.jpg

The mushroom vents around B & X turret, plus those near the conning tower were placed much higher (check pics of the late version Hood)

On the bridge, between the HACS director and the 5.5" director, you have an entirely gray area. You should be able to see something on the other side on either side on the vertical leg of the tripod running through the entire bridge structure.

You miss a radar antenna on the top rangefinder.

It seems that the air intake aft of funnel #1 should go a bit back?

Color of the anchor: probably not that color, but ship gray with dirt.
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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Hi,
A question here, I've just started my Trumpeter Hood and Am in the midst of painting the hull. How wide is the boot topping? I make it about 5mm? Does it extend below the waterline? Can anyone help, please!
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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Foeth_ wrote:There're a few minor issues. :thumbs_up_1:

The degaussing cable has a double run around both the bow and the stern: http://blog.ontheslipway.com/wp-content ... uss_10.jpg
I've based my work on the file : http://hmshood.com/hoodtoday/models/tru ... irings.gif specified by Franck and i had not realized there were two parts... Ready to correct (not fine to do)
The mushroom vents around B & X turret, plus those near the conning tower were placed much higher (check pics of the late version Hood)
Can you give me an order of height 'cause i've not found on the site
On the bridge, between the HACS director and the 5.5" director, you have an entirely gray area. You should be able to see something on the other side on either side on the vertical leg of the tripod running through the entire bridge structure.
Corrected
You miss a radar antenna on the top rangefinder.

Corrected
It seems that the air intake aft of funnel #1 should go a bit back?
Don't really think it's back.
I stay it there for the moment but i haven't seen a great difference between my drawing and pictures of the Hood
Color of the anchor: probably not that color, but ship gray with dirt.
I completly agree with you. The colors are the last touch before adding the shaddowing.
It's easier for me to work. I suppose a good dark black....

Here a small preview of the Hood will be.
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I'll have to correct my shaddowing to obtain a better grey/blue

When the profile will be finished, i'll go to find the good colors references for this.

Sincerely

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Re: Boot topping /waterline - 1941

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Hi,

This has come up a couple of times, with no answers. I can find no pictures that really show the loss of freeboard after Hood's final refit. According to Foerth and AOTS it works out at about 4mm above the join on the Trumpeter 1/350th kit. Which would put it about at the top of the boot topping in most late pics...so how far down does the boot topping go? It seems to vary on peoples models from about 4-6mm. Does anyone have a clue? Please!
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Before beginning the shaddowing of the pride, i'd like to correct the mistakes i've surely made but where are they, only specialists can answer me....

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Not so much to see of the aft part of HMS Hood that is wrong except for a few details.

- You now have a white area below the bandstand (the structure with the aft pompom). This entire area should be gray.
- The type of boat with cabin is not correct; try to get a look at the Anatomy of the Ship Belfast or Victorious: they have the correct type of 35ft motorboat.
- The main vent of the midsection of HMS Hood that is situated to the aft searchlight platform is about twice as high.
- There's a small platform to operate the main crane derrick connected to the main mast (very close to the boat deck). You cannot see under it, bulkheads were placed.
- The degaussing cable is a double style cable around the stern
- The top gaff is connected to the rear of the platform of the type 279 radar antenna, not to the main aft topmast. Here you can also see how this platform itself was fixed to the mast. (Note, these are platforms for several types of radar antenna, not only the type 279. You can tell the difference between the number of isolating rings around the mast: 3 for the type 279, 4 for the other (281? Can't remember). Picture from my blog for a future post, but already prepared)

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I think that's about it :wave_1:
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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EJFoeth wrote:Not so much to see of the aft part of HMS Hood that is wrong except for a few details.

- You now have a white area below the bandstand (the structure with the aft pompom). This entire area should be gray.
Corrected but i had always seen this part as an "empty" part wich explains the mistake:
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... ood-19.jpg
http://www.freeweb.hu/olli/hd_elemei/8.jpg
- The type of boat with cabin is not correct; try to get a look at the Anatomy of the Ship Belfast or Victorious: they have the correct type of 35ft motorboat.
Corrected as best as i could because i don't get the book and i've not found a real good photo
- The main vent of the midsection of HMS Hood that is situated to the aft searchlight platform is about twice as high.
Corrected
- There's a small platform to operate the main crane derrick connected to the main mast (very close to the boat deck). You cannot see under it, bulkheads were placed.
Corrected as well i have understood (sorry my english is really poor)
- The degaussing cable is a double style cable around the stern
It is the case so no correction added
- The top gaff is connected to the rear of the platform of the type 279 radar antenna, not to the main aft topmast. Here you can also see how this platform itself was fixed to the mast.
Corrected

I think that's about it :wave_1:
Thanks a lot for these explanations.
I'm now waiting for the GO! to begin the shaddowing.

A last question : was the Royal Navy flag present during the last travel of the Hood?


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I don't know about the flag... Perhaps someone else knows. I cannot see all corrections on your drawings, so :big_grin:

-What I meant with the main crane platform: you have a small platform drawn between the legs of the main mast very close to the deck, just aft of a 4" gun and almost below the green/red detail in the aerials. The space below this platfrom should be gray. See picture, top left, at the position of the right arrow (not where it is pointing, but where it is).
- One large vent must be higher, see same picture, end or the second arrow. It is the vent to the aft searchlight platform.

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- The gray area beneath the bandstand is now correctly gray. Note that the large vent is behind that gray surface; the bandstand is offset to starboard.

These errors are not uncommon, they are present on all models (except one ;) ) and all drawings!
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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Based on your comments, the lasts modifications i've made
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Hello fans!!

I'm very glad to show you my finished Hood. It has been a long long work but a real pleasure to see :

A simple profile in his last configuration :
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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Very well done Jean :thumbs_up_1:

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hey folks,

Im doing my Hood in 1924 Empire Cruise fit and i was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a couple pics for reference
I need a shot of the Searchlight platform between the funnels, specifically the front and the top
a picture of the after superstructure towards the base, and a shot of the aft 15inch Range Finder

Many thanks in advance

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The parts of the bridge and fore bridge were already quite finished, until John Roberts posted the sketch below on the official HMS Hood site.

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This layout, with a split level, is different from the single (extended) level in the Anatomy of the Ship series (Drawing E3/5, p86) . Two windshields are visible at the right image (arrows) that support the split-level layout. Note that the right windshield is a bit broader. I suppose this part of the shield can be swung to the side to allow access from the lower platform. The UP-launchers on the boat deck can be similarly accesses by opening the splinter shields. Note the railing at the sides of the air-defense platform (top of the image) below the canvas-wrapped equipment (inside of the arrows). These railings run wider than the roof of the fore bridge and forward position of the air-defense platform. If you look closely, you can see a ladder between the railing and the closed wind shield. The new drawing by Roberts seems to work out quite well with the few photographs of this part of HMS Hood.

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The left side of the image shows the admiral's bridge. The right side is a top view of the new layout. The width of the wind shields is taken from head-on photograph.

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As the bridge part was already completed, it needed to be modified for the new layout. The left image shows the inserts I made for the lower half of the split level. This level is quite low, too low for any person to be standing around it. I made this part solid. I have no references whatsoever, but at least it gives the model some support. The right image shows the upper half of the split level. A part with an opening for a ladder according to the old layout was first truncated, then the platform was extended.

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Front 3/4 view showing the new layout.
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Re: Calling all HMS "Mighty" Hood fans

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hi all,
just a couple of questions on the 1/350 Trumpeter Hood.
What are parts F1 and F5 and what colour should they be?
and
i am adding some crew - what colour uniforms should they have?
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I see that the Lion Roar set for the hood includes replacement main turrets. What is wrong with the once that come with the kit?
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The main problem with the Trumpy turrets is the kind of "ridge" with the rivet details. This makes the armour panel look recessed and Hood's turrets weren't made that way. There are other problems with the shape of the turrets and missing openings on the front of the turrets.

If you want accurate turrets then buy the turrets from WEM. The master was made by EJ Foeth and they are absolutely gorgeous. Lots of details and the choice between opened and closed rangefinder hoods. And what is really nice is that they are not that expensive :thumbs_up_1:

I'm in no way associated with WEM but I have the Lion Roar set and the WEM turrets and I must say the WEM ones are way better!

Just my 2 cents

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Sylvain Auger wrote:The main problem with the Trumpy turrets is the kind of "ridge" with the rivet details. This makes the armour panel look recessed and Hood's turrets weren't made that way. There are other problems with the shape of the turrets and missing openings on the front of the turrets.

If you want accurate turrets then buy the turrets from WEM. The master was made by EJ Foeth and they are absolutely gorgeous. Lots of details and the choice between opened and closed rangefinder hoods. And what is really nice is that they are not that expensive :thumbs_up_1:

I'm in no way associated with WEM but I have the Lion Roar set and the WEM turrets and I must say the WEM ones are way better!

Just my 2 cents

Sylvain
Well, I kinda like the exaterated rivet detail on the kits turrets, so I may just use them anyway despite their minor inaccuracies.
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