Calling all Queen Elizabeth-class (1914-1947) fans
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mike mccabe
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Radar - Well I think we all already knew that about the radar from looking at the photos.
Gilbert
Those platforms, ashtrays for the pom pom gunners, heavy smokers those boys.
See you all in a week, off on holiday!
Mike
Gilbert
Those platforms, ashtrays for the pom pom gunners, heavy smokers those boys.
See you all in a week, off on holiday!
Mike
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Hopefully to somewhere you can still watch the FA CUP final!mike mccabe wrote:
See you all in a week, off on holiday!
Mike
Radar: It was other photo's I have which hinted at radar (including if memory recalls one of Barham refuelling Eridge in the Med.)
I've made all photo url's instead of img's to get around MWforum 1200x1200pixels size limits, thereby giving you bigger images to work with:-
Here is a good photo for you of Barham's stern catwalk after her modernization if your struggling to find good specific Barham photos showing it in place:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... uction.jpg
This one may be useful for Barham's catapult:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... tapult.jpg
Here are 2 photo stills I made of her sinking (they seem to have still blurred up somewhat...the footage on DVD itself seems much crisper, anyone technically savy enough suggest another free DVD program I can use on the pc which won't blur screen captures?):
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... nking3.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... nking4.jpg
Finally here is 2 more photos of her sinking clearly showing the Admiral's pendant:
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... inking.jpg
http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/6/1/1 ... nking2.jpg
Hopefully they are helpful?
Cheers
LB
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
mike mccabe wrote:
Gilbert
Those platforms, ashtrays for the pom pom gunners, heavy smokers those boys.
Mike
Happy holidays Mike
Gilbert
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Thanks for the pictures, Laurence.
Cheers
Gilbert
Cheers
Gilbert
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Dino Carancini
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
mike mccabe wrote: Those platforms, ashtrays for the pom pom gunners, heavy smokers those boys.
Mike
... I must admit I spent about 10 min wondering what could be the ashtray for the pom-poms, I was thinking about something for the spent cartridges
...then I translated "ashtrays"
Ciao
Dino
PS @ Laurence thanks for the photos.
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Dino Carancini
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Hello,
I'm looking for some help trying to understand where the W/T aerials are connected. I can't see any aerial trunk on the aft superstructure and I suppose that they end somewhere on the main mast starfish.
Any help is welcome! Thank you.

I'm looking for some help trying to understand where the W/T aerials are connected. I can't see any aerial trunk on the aft superstructure and I suppose that they end somewhere on the main mast starfish.
Any help is welcome! Thank you.

- drdoom1337
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Is the WEM HMS Barham any good of a kit? It's calling my name if it is! 

- Sylvain Auger
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
I have the Barham kit at home and it's definitely a must-have for fans of the QE class. You can't go wrong with this baby!
Cheers
Sylvain
Cheers
Sylvain
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mifune
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Little something to keep this going...
HMS Valiant having a refit and repaint 1942. Photo courtesy of Tim Lewin.
HMS Valiant having a refit and repaint 1942. Photo courtesy of Tim Lewin.
Mikko Saarela
Measure twice, cut once. Measuring once could be quicker...
Measure twice, cut once. Measuring once could be quicker...
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1/350th Warspite
From the main board people may have picked up that according to the Hannants website, the Academy 1/350th "Queen Elizabeth" will actually be "HMS Warspite".
No details, but at least a catalogue number.
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No details, but at least a catalogue number.
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
The old Airfix Warspite was my first ever warship model as a kid.

The idea of a new 1:350 scale Warspite is really exciting;
she was such a characterful member of the QE class, as the whole class were, but Warspite perhaps slightly more so.
The idea of a new 1:350 scale Warspite is really exciting;
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mifune
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One lucky find again. HMS VALIANT 1944.
Mikko Saarela
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Hi all,
congrats to the fine work and enormous dedication depicted in this thread!
I am in the process of building the Airfix Warspite, a favorite kit of my youth, but this time as beached in Prussia Cove on her abortive last journey.
I have the Raven/Roberts volume, the new shipcraft book (with input from many of you, a very nicely done book in book, so to speak), I have several other images and I am waiting for the AOTS book which is somewhere in the mail between the UK and here.
One question I havent solved yet (and from what I heard from an owner of the AOTS book, it doesn�t either) is how the former catapult deck was used after the aircraft installations were removed. The Raven/Roberts book has six single Oerlikons placed there, but I so far found no more info.
In other ships, the space was used for boat storage so that more prominent areas were available for more AA - so this might be true, but I haven�t found info yet.
Furthermore, when the aircraft installations were removed, the starboard hangar was converted to a cinema. Has anyone an idea whether the hangar doors were retained or replaced? I have seen one photo taken during scrapping that looks as if the original hangar door might still be in place, but am not sure.
My take is that weapons, boats and radars had been removed at Portsmouth already, but that boat cradles and differently colored areas of deck would remain where baots and weapons had been - would you consider that approach correct?
Online references re her last voyage I have found are:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancest ... torshw.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono ... rspite.htm
Looking forward to your input and to building the model
Frank
congrats to the fine work and enormous dedication depicted in this thread!
I am in the process of building the Airfix Warspite, a favorite kit of my youth, but this time as beached in Prussia Cove on her abortive last journey.
I have the Raven/Roberts volume, the new shipcraft book (with input from many of you, a very nicely done book in book, so to speak), I have several other images and I am waiting for the AOTS book which is somewhere in the mail between the UK and here.
One question I havent solved yet (and from what I heard from an owner of the AOTS book, it doesn�t either) is how the former catapult deck was used after the aircraft installations were removed. The Raven/Roberts book has six single Oerlikons placed there, but I so far found no more info.
In other ships, the space was used for boat storage so that more prominent areas were available for more AA - so this might be true, but I haven�t found info yet.
Furthermore, when the aircraft installations were removed, the starboard hangar was converted to a cinema. Has anyone an idea whether the hangar doors were retained or replaced? I have seen one photo taken during scrapping that looks as if the original hangar door might still be in place, but am not sure.
My take is that weapons, boats and radars had been removed at Portsmouth already, but that boat cradles and differently colored areas of deck would remain where baots and weapons had been - would you consider that approach correct?
Online references re her last voyage I have found are:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancest ... torshw.htm
http://www.naval-history.net/xGM-Chrono ... rspite.htm
Looking forward to your input and to building the model
Frank
AKA "Doc Bear" (a bear of very little brain ...)
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VMF'06 - German Gamblers
Veritable Modelling Friends 2006, Germany
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Dino Carancini
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Hello gents!
It seems that 2011 is going to be the Queen Elizabeth class year! Academy is coming with a rebuilt HMS Warspite 1/350, while Trumpeter is working at the QE as seen in 1941, always 1/350.
Links courtesy from Primeportal:
http://www.primeportal.net/models/thoma ... 5/academy/
http://www.primeportal.net/models/thoma ... php?Page=2
Dino
It seems that 2011 is going to be the Queen Elizabeth class year! Academy is coming with a rebuilt HMS Warspite 1/350, while Trumpeter is working at the QE as seen in 1941, always 1/350.
Links courtesy from Primeportal:
http://www.primeportal.net/models/thoma ... 5/academy/
http://www.primeportal.net/models/thoma ... php?Page=2
Dino
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Erik W
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
I�m planning on building the HMS Malaya as seen in 1943 in 1/700 scale. I figured the best place to start was with the WEM HMS Barham model, the contents of which are seen in detail here: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... sAOy5-SoBA
I have, or will have by the time I start, enough reference materials and plans for the conversion. My planned bill of materials then is:
WEM HMS Barham
WEM Queen Elizabeth class photo etch for WWII: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... mpe734.jpg If you look closely (upper right part of fret), this actually has a section of parts for the Malaya.
GMM Ultra Fine railings
Master Models 15� brass barrels
Now, do any of you experts on the QE class, see any major issues with this approach? To me it appears the hull would need very little modification and the conversion would be mainly scratch built superstructure work.
Please chime in if you have any comments.
Thanks,
Erik
I have, or will have by the time I start, enough reference materials and plans for the conversion. My planned bill of materials then is:
WEM HMS Barham
WEM Queen Elizabeth class photo etch for WWII: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... mpe734.jpg If you look closely (upper right part of fret), this actually has a section of parts for the Malaya.
GMM Ultra Fine railings
Master Models 15� brass barrels
Now, do any of you experts on the QE class, see any major issues with this approach? To me it appears the hull would need very little modification and the conversion would be mainly scratch built superstructure work.
Please chime in if you have any comments.
Thanks,
Erik
My ship build(s)
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/gallery ... index.html
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Guest
RE: Anatomy of the Ship book on Warspite
Gentlemen,
There are two editions of the AOTS on the Warspite, from 1991 and 2002 respectively. Is the 2002 edition significantly better than the earlier? What is offered that wasn't before? I've tried to search for reviews but can't find one that compares the two editions.
Getting ready for the Trumpy kit....
There are two editions of the AOTS on the Warspite, from 1991 and 2002 respectively. Is the 2002 edition significantly better than the earlier? What is offered that wasn't before? I've tried to search for reviews but can't find one that compares the two editions.
Getting ready for the Trumpy kit....
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
What plans and references do you have for your conversion?Erik W wrote:I�m planning on building the HMS Malaya as seen in 1943 in 1/700 scale. I figured the best place to start was with the WEM HMS Barham model, the contents of which are seen in detail here: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... sAOy5-SoBA
I have, or will have by the time I start, enough reference materials and plans for the conversion. My planned bill of materials then is:
WEM HMS Barham
WEM Queen Elizabeth class photo etch for WWII: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... mpe734.jpg If you look closely (upper right part of fret), this actually has a section of parts for the Malaya.
GMM Ultra Fine railings
Master Models 15� brass barrels
Now, do any of you experts on the QE class, see any major issues with this approach? To me it appears the hull would need very little modification and the conversion would be mainly scratch built superstructure work.
Please chime in if you have any comments.
Thanks,
Erik
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Erik W
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Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
The main reference I'll have (should be here in a few days) is the Profile Morskie plan book on the Malaya.ar wrote:What plans and references do you have for your conversion?Erik W wrote:I�m planning on building the HMS Malaya as seen in 1943 in 1/700 scale. I figured the best place to start was with the WEM HMS Barham model, the contents of which are seen in detail here: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... sAOy5-SoBA
I have, or will have by the time I start, enough reference materials and plans for the conversion. My planned bill of materials then is:
WEM HMS Barham
WEM Queen Elizabeth class photo etch for WWII: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... mpe734.jpg If you look closely (upper right part of fret), this actually has a section of parts for the Malaya.
GMM Ultra Fine railings
Master Models 15� brass barrels
Now, do any of you experts on the QE class, see any major issues with this approach? To me it appears the hull would need very little modification and the conversion would be mainly scratch built superstructure work.
Please chime in if you have any comments.
Thanks,
Erik
For general arrangement on the QE class, I have the Queen Elizabeth Class Battleships by Les Brown, The Battleship Warspite (Anatomy of the Ship) by Ross Watton and Queen Elizabeth class (Warship monographs 2) by Campbell.
Admittedly, if the Profile Morskie book doesn't have detailed enough plans, this project will probably be a non-starter. Plan B is back dating the WEM Queen Elizabeth 1918 to model the Malaya as she appeared in 1916. This would definitely be an easier conversion!
Erik
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Dino not logged
Re: Calling all HMS Queen Elizabeth class fans
Erik W wrote:I�m planning on building the HMS Malaya as seen in 1943 in 1/700 scale. I figured the best place to start was with the WEM HMS Barham model, the contents of which are seen in detail here: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=htt ... sAOy5-SoBA
I have, or will have by the time I start, enough reference materials and plans for the conversion. My planned bill of materials then is:
WEM HMS Barham
WEM Queen Elizabeth class photo etch for WWII: http://www.whiteensignmodels.com/brochu ... mpe734.jpg If you look closely (upper right part of fret), this actually has a section of parts for the Malaya.
GMM Ultra Fine railings
Master Models 15� brass barrels
Now, do any of you experts on the QE class, see any major issues with this approach? To me it appears the hull would need very little modification and the conversion would be mainly scratch built superstructure work.
Please chime in if you have any comments.
Thanks,
Erik
This is interesting, but you should keep in mind that almost all above the main deck was different, I think that this project is possible, but with a lot of work.
Dino
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