Bismarck 1/100

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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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Hi Dave.
Yes some parts are intricated and very difficult to do. i was thinking how i am solve some parts.. exactly the round parts of shown in the pictures. and i am solving in my head what i can do to solve.
each piece i am doing i need stop another part cause is impossible dedication to two things in same time.
i need restart another unfinished parts and make the funnel paralel...
i thank you the comments. yes each builder have your methods to do and i apreciate it.
is cool share it...
Many regards
when progress i post :thumbs_up_1: :wave_1:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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First time poster to your part of the forum and WOW what a build.
Capit�o Norbert When you make your parts when they have a circular wall, what thickness of plastic to you use? I'm currently trying my hand at building the Admiral Kuznetsov 1/72 and have some difficult curves in the lower superstructure. I tried to construct it using 1.5mm plastic and found it was quite difficult to work with but if I use 1mm plastic to does an inward warp. Or should I use 1mm and reinforce it? I reinforced the 1.5mm and the only problems I had was getting it to stay there. Do you warm your plastic to fit better or what? Help please.
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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Hi ozpirate thank you by the kind words.
well i use the 0.5mm and the 0.8mm to circular walls. i using 1mm in the circular bridge of Bismarck with success.
but you have in mind he tickness of styrene i use is acording the platform or piece you are doing, example: in the searchlight platform of bridge i use 0.5mm. To revest the funnel( i still don't do) i am use 0.8mm i think.'as i said i use 1mm in the circular platform of the model.
no i don't use any hot font or hot water to bend. i bend in cold process. the hot water help certainly but it's not my process.
the secret is make a perfect soft curve, and correcting this curve don't be hard corner cause can danificate the styrene belt used to revest the piece. when you make a soft curve don't have any trouble.
but you have in mind when more tickness you use more complex is to do it.
i never use more than 1mm. Using 1mm it makes very strong a contrary force. you need glue first a part straight line using a good styrene glue. it leaves to dry a little after you can reinforce this part with a litlle bit of cianoacrylate. just use few ciano very feel. just prevent a strong gluig in the moment. after many hours what goes hold the part is the styrene glue you use before.
well after you can gluing the round part and holding with the hands or another tool you prefer, i prefer use the hands. after holding just minutes you can add again the cyano(very litte too) and continuing the process. Don't forget to measure the lenght of belt you use for a circular piece and leave a excess of each side to cut later. The excess is necessary. Too i make a pencil line and glue using this line to make a good gluing and aligned too.
you can use too bend(using a hot font of your preference) to broke (in part) a resistence of styrene in the round part. but you can use it when you are bending a large part of styrene and using too 0.8 or 1mm. i never need use 1.5 is very strong the contrary force.
i think this help you. any thing please ask me.
i am post some pictures to explain what tickness i use ok?
regards :wave_1:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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OZ some pictures to ilustrate... :thumbs_up_1:
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making perfect curves.
making perfect curves.
bridge revesting 1mm( is more difficult using 1mm but for this piece is a good thickness for me
bridge revesting 1mm( is more difficult using 1mm but for this piece is a good thickness for me
bending using 0.8mm in this case
bending using 0.8mm in this case
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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:smallsmile:
i use 0.8mm here too
i use 0.8mm here too
and finally i use 0.5mm in the searchlight platform.....<br />don't forget... a good curve help so much...<br />Bye
and finally i use 0.5mm in the searchlight platform.....
don't forget... a good curve help so much...
Bye
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Thanks for the info, I'll give it a go and keeping my fingers crossed.
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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ok. do you have some picture of the piece you are doing?
maibe i can help more.. :wave_1:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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Hellow fellow modellers..
i am posting more pictures of the funnel buildings... :thumbs_up_1:
the purple line and yellow line is to show how this part have an elevation in the end of funnel near the hook
the purple line and yellow line is to show how this part have an elevation in the end of funnel near the hook
revesting the piece
revesting the piece
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I do like the idea of the extra stips on the inside of the funnel casing :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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:thumbs_up_1:
holding to glue
holding to glue
this is me and my buildings
this is me and my buildings
another view of me and part of funnel
another view of me and part of funnel
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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yes Dave, this is a reinforce too to hold some external parts... but is better do a not much large belt... :thumbs_up_1:
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:heh:
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gluing in two parts
gluing in two parts
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the ladder inside(really i dont know if this exact place, but i know have inspection ladders on funnel
the ladder inside(really i dont know if this exact place, but i know have inspection ladders on funnel
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:big_grin:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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some elements still not glued
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searchlight platform
searchlight platform
preparing to cut
preparing to cut
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the searchlight platform make part of building leaves strong in the place :thumbs_up_1:
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attaching (still not glued) cause need receive the plate
attaching (still not glued) cause need receive the plate
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i haved to change one modification in the curved parts.<br />i haved attached like a stanchions in keel but this brings me a desalignment i am solving replacing with no central nervure in this case you can see i cut part of this nervure...(i don't know the exact term)..
i haved to change one modification in the curved parts.
i haved attached like a stanchions in keel but this brings me a desalignment i am solving replacing with no central nervure in this case you can see i cut part of this nervure...(i don't know the exact term)..
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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well that's it today..
until next.. :wave_1:
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a view of the funnelllllll<br />bye
a view of the funnelllllll
bye
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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The level of detail and use of Styrene is simply Outstanding. I love the cutter, Will have to add that tool to the Box.
Awesome work. :thumbs_up_1: :thumbs_up_1:
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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hI SweeperSkipper thank you the nice words .
yes some tools are very usefull
recently i purchase a tool to make rivets(simulate) in the styrene. is from Hasegawa and a nice tool and is like a pen.
but i need invest more in specially tools
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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Hi SweeperSkipper
thank you by the kind words.
yes really the cutter is a good and very usefull tool.
i need invest in more specific tools too.
I have seen its work also. its. outstanding job.
soon i am post new pictures or the funnel's work
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Re: Bismarck 1/100

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Rebuilding the rear part of funnel.....
Hi fellow modellers i am here again
and the pictures show the rebuild the rear part of funnel.
i ignorate one drawing i don't have in the main plan i have, so \to construct this part
i planed in my head how do it. ok this work but one part of the funnel(rear part) was so much difficult
to revest satisfactory. and i looking for more information i find in another plan i have an important drawing
just the rear part of this subject. now i cut out the part i am doing and with the new drawing i having in hands
now this work so well. but this consuming my few time too unfortunately.
i am revest this weekend. please show the pics and see the difference.
ship modelling as always a great challenge but i am happy to do it.
Regards all
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gluing the block......
gluing the block......
part rebuilded
part rebuilded
new structure to rear part..... yes the inclination of the bulkheads make the difference.<br />the piece revest perfect now.
new structure to rear part..... yes the inclination of the bulkheads make the difference.
the piece revest perfect now.
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